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Old 02-28-2015 | 10:50 PM
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That's another reason I live in Texas
I know, it's a crazy way CA collects car taxes. Probably needed to help offset Prop 13. I only pay $3700 annual property taxes on a $1.2m home. So there is that.
Old 02-28-2015 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
I know, it's a crazy way CA collects car taxes. Probably needed to help offset Prop 13. I only pay $3700 annual property taxes on a $1.2m home. So there is that.
Understand. But there's that small thing called personal State income tax in CA that more than makes up for the low property tax But yes, at the end of the day it's all a wash one way or another.
Old 02-28-2015 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3
Understand. But there's that small thing called personal State income tax in CA that more than makes up for the low property tax But yes, at the end of the day it's all a wash one way or another.
Yes , 13% sucks! O'well, I live in a beautiful place.
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Most dealers will give you wholesale price. The latter is usually determined by first looking at Manheim recent auction sales (MMR reports) for the vehicle in question and then subtracting thousands to insure themselves they'll be 'whole' if they have to auction it (ship it off to one of the auction sites, etc). So the term it's usually 'X thousands in back of Manheim'. I have no love for dealers...but it's a business. Buy low & try to sell high. As for Autotrader, NADA, Kelly Blue Book or CarGurus estimated values, these are NOT what most dealers will consult before quoting you a price for your trade. My dos centavos, for what it's worth.

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Exactly correct. They will pull up the Manheim numbers at the dealership and look at completed auctions and give you something below that. Options don't seem to matter, condition and mileage are to be the only real variables from what I've seen.

What's the trade? Maybe you can get the Manheim values if you give year, make, model and mileage.
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yup and that 1.2mm house would be 500k in Texas
Old 03-01-2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001
what would be the best way to estimate trade in value? How much difference would you allow if the dealer is not exactly giving you your expected value?

I have my numbers already and ready to trade my car but I would like to see how much I have been suckered by my stealer.
what car do you have?
Old 03-01-2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3
That's another reason I live in Texas

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Old 03-01-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
I know, it's a crazy way CA collects car taxes. Probably needed to help offset Prop 13. I only pay $3700 annual property taxes on a $1.2m home. So there is that.
That's a pretty sweet deal, I pay $42k/year property taxes. AMT makes sure I don't get the value of the deduction either...
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Bummer:-(
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:06 AM
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In CA prop 13 is only really helpful if you have owned your home a long time and it's appreciated a lot. Base Propery tax rate is 1% and can be higher in other areas (1.2% where I live), but they can only raise your taxes a small amount per year ( I think 2%). So if you bought a home more recently and paid closer to market value, it's a lot more money! Plus the high cost of homes, high state income tax (> 10%), having no tax offset on new car when trading in a car, etc

At least we can drive our cars year round in mostly sunny weather!
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Originally Posted by OCturbo
In CA prop 13 is only really helpful if you have owned your home a long time and it's appreciated a lot. Base Propery tax rate is 1% and can be higher in other areas (1.2% where I live), but they can only raise your taxes a small amount per year ( I think 2%). So if you bought a home more recently and paid closer to market value, it's a lot more money! Plus the high cost of homes, high state income tax (> 10%), having no tax offset on new car when trading in a car, etc

At least we can drive our cars year round in mostly sunny weather!
Just like we do in Texas, without all of that tax mess. Then again half of California is moving to Texas, so hope things don't change
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:43 AM
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Am I lost or did the OP still not tell us the details?.....car to trade?.....value given?....it sounds as though this is something that should have been worked out before ordering the GT3.....the dealer has a car you badly want and knows he can sell if you bail....more info would help.....
Old 03-01-2015 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3
Just like we do in Texas, without all of that tax mess. Then again half of California is moving to Texas, so hope things don't change
But then you're stuck living in Texas.
Old 03-01-2015 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
Am I lost or did the OP still not tell us the details?.....car to trade?.....value given?....it sounds as though this is something that should have been worked out before ordering the GT3.....the dealer has a car you badly want and knows he can sell if you bail....more info would help.....
That's right, he didn't give any details, yet he requested to find out how much he's losing on the trade because the value he's being offered is "$5k to $9k" below asking prices on AutoTrader.
Old 03-01-2015 | 12:25 PM
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Based on a 5-9k valuation, once can assume its an older car with higher miles... but if its clean Carmax is a good start for a decent offer in most cases... The dealer will low ball the trade because its not a keeper on their lot (Porsche dealer for sure wont house 5-9k used cars) and they will have to wholesale it out.


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