GT3 VS Caymen GT4
#16
#17
You'd be surprised! Slim... Except for people that track often...small percentage IMO.
It seems the manual option would've gone to a very small percentage as well. Out of perhaps 10% of the GT3 owners that are on forums,the majority are saying they'd take PDK,so you can imagine what the rest would take... So the customers that Porsche lost going PDK only is insignificant in Porsche's bottom line-smart decision.
It seems the manual option would've gone to a very small percentage as well. Out of perhaps 10% of the GT3 owners that are on forums,the majority are saying they'd take PDK,so you can imagine what the rest would take... So the customers that Porsche lost going PDK only is insignificant in Porsche's bottom line-smart decision.
#19
It's obviously impossible to know how many would have opted for MT; likewise, it's impossible to know how many customers Porsche lost by going "PDK only". I'll bet, though, that if MT had been available, there would be a greater number of buyers who would have opted for it than you think. And I don't mean this as a shot to PDK at all, as I understand many would have chosen it, as well.
#20
#22
We'll see what comes, they'll make for a good group test eventually.
Dynamically I'm not a huge fan of the snappy rear on the Cayman or its relative inability to put down higher power levels (so far, we'll see what the guys can do). I have no doubt that it will be kept in its place to protect the GT3, but I would have preferred a higher power to weight ratio that would have allowed you to steer it with the rear more.
I like the small size of the GT4- it's got the bones of a sports car rather than a GT. My ideal would be the best of both, the more sophisticated suspension and higher power levels of the bigger GT3s in the smaller package.
Since that's likely not on the menu on balance my second choice would be the GT3 or RS. I would have stretched but no manual option made that decision for me.
If they fix the rear suspension we'll see how good the GT3's ECU encryption is... I still want that motor.
Dynamically I'm not a huge fan of the snappy rear on the Cayman or its relative inability to put down higher power levels (so far, we'll see what the guys can do). I have no doubt that it will be kept in its place to protect the GT3, but I would have preferred a higher power to weight ratio that would have allowed you to steer it with the rear more.
I like the small size of the GT4- it's got the bones of a sports car rather than a GT. My ideal would be the best of both, the more sophisticated suspension and higher power levels of the bigger GT3s in the smaller package.
Since that's likely not on the menu on balance my second choice would be the GT3 or RS. I would have stretched but no manual option made that decision for me.
If they fix the rear suspension we'll see how good the GT3's ECU encryption is... I still want that motor.
#23
Forget about the money because I have a 991 GT3 and I do not own a $.01 on it. The GT4 will be a better looking car, in my opinion, because I have always found the Cayman to be prettier than the 911. I have owned both.
The Manual option, size and weight is advantage GT4.
The minus is it will be underpowered again and the GT3 has a beast of an engine. That is why the GT3 will stay in my stable but the GT4 is going to do well.
The Manual option, size and weight is advantage GT4.
The minus is it will be underpowered again and the GT3 has a beast of an engine. That is why the GT3 will stay in my stable but the GT4 is going to do well.
#24
If the GT4 comes in manual, has the correct power to weight ratio, I will buy one. I'll put a proper coilover suspension in it.
Mid engine cars are much more balanced than rear engined car. When the axis of rotation is through the engine, not much mass is being thrown when steering. Another reason Porsche keeps creeping the 911 engine closer and closer to the driver.
Since I'm never selling my GT3 (997.1) this may be a non answer.
Also, I think if one can afford (in true sense) a $100K car, they can afford a $150K car.
Mid engine cars are much more balanced than rear engined car. When the axis of rotation is through the engine, not much mass is being thrown when steering. Another reason Porsche keeps creeping the 911 engine closer and closer to the driver.
Since I'm never selling my GT3 (997.1) this may be a non answer.
Also, I think if one can afford (in true sense) a $100K car, they can afford a $150K car.
#27
Other then cost, the GT4 is lighter, the GT3 is a beast at over 3200 lbs and very high top speeds. It's a Porsche mechanics dream come true. I'd pick the GT4 because it will consume brake pads, tires at a more reasonable rate. With 5 lug wheels I can do all the work myself with confidence. This means more track days for less money and more traffic to play with instead of having the top dog car out there. I think it would make a way more economical track car, at least for me. Once your in GT3 territory you may as well just have a cup car.
#29
#30
I've never driven a cayman, need to head to a Porsche dealer and drive a GTS. The spy shots of the gt4 looks great! Manual, 5 lug and just shy of 100k sounds like a great track toy! Everybody's budget is different but for me to relax on track a 200k RS is to much to risk. Heck even 100k cayman is to much! Might have to stick to the 6.3! That's why the 4.0 and 6rs never gets driven the way they are designed to! !!!!