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Old 01-12-2015, 10:42 AM
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I have driven sebring only once but it seems that you are leaving quite a bit on the table here.
The Z06 is a great car but not a match to the GT3
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Originally Posted by malmasri
The Z06 is a great car but not a match to the GT3
can you be more specific?
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Originally Posted by est8esq
Fast forward to 1:45'ish...

GT3 vs New Z06 - YouTube
Any insight into the experience level of the Z06 driver and if was pushing the car to his full capability or if he was purposefully holding back (learning car or new to Sebring) ?

Ryan
Old 01-12-2015, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by paver
can you be more specific?
It is my personal opinion based on close review of available published industry data that the Z06 which has approx 30% more Hp " 175 more ponys" and 8% more weight " approx. 250 lb" has not been able to outperform the 991 GT3 in any category except price, add to that the on track overheating issue that is yet to be addressed by GM, and you have an inferior track vehicle.
Old 01-12-2015, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by reidry
Any insight into the experience level of the Z06 driver and if was pushing the car to his full capability or if he was purposefully holding back (learning car or new to Sebring) ?

Ryan
^ I was there in my Stock WRX on Rcomps and got point byes from several 7.2 GT3, Cayman R, E46M3 etc. Does that mean that the WRX is a better car

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^ I was there in my Stock WRX on Rcomps and got point byes from several 7.2 GT3, Cayman R, E46M3 etc. Does that mean that the WRX is a better car

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Exactly my point, it's not like it was Jan Magnussen vs Tommy Milner. It's an HPDE with a mix of driver capabilities.

The only "winning" at an HPDE is driving home with the shiney side just as shiney as before the event.

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Originally Posted by 85Gold
^ I was there in my Stock WRX on Rcomps and got point byes from several 7.2 GT3, Cayman R, E46M3 etc. Does that mean that the WRX is a better car

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Mr. Farmer, aka Peter sorry not to meet up with you , met many RL guys for the first time at Winterfest , what # was your WRX ? I was driving #95x

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Originally Posted by malmasri
I have driven sebring only once but it seems that you are leaving quite a bit on the table here.
The Z06 is a great car but not a match to the GT3
Running in the same group with est8esq all I will say he was sub 2:20's in a

DE group ,little confused on your table size.
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Originally Posted by malmasri
It is my personal opinion based on close review of available published industry data that the Z06 which has approx 30% more Hp " 175 more ponys" and 8% more weight " approx. 250 lb" has not been able to outperform the 991 GT3 in any category except price, add to that the on track overheating issue that is yet to be addressed by GM, and you have an inferior track vehicle.
Did you see the 1:29 at Road Atlanta or the 2:51 at VIR grand which would equate to a 1:56 on the full course?

This is just a better driver passing a slower one. I don't think you've hit the nail on that assertion.
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Originally Posted by R.Deacon
Mr. Farmer, aka Peter sorry not to meet up with you , met many RL guys for the first time at Winterfest , what # was your WRX ? I was driving #95x

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I was #333 red WRX and only there Thursday/Friday/Friday night session. I did meet some new faces and old friends from the Left Coast, paddocked by the famous TRAKCAR 😀

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Originally Posted by 85Gold
I was #333 red WRX and only there Thursday/Friday/Friday night session. I did meet some new faces and old friends from the Left Coast, paddocked by the famous TRAKCAR ��

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Peter
I had breakfast with Peter Sunday and met the famous Chromium24, got up there Thursday Paddocked with Bob Verla's Foreign Affairs group , will be
with then and Suncoast P for the 48hours coming up in a couple of weeks, est8esq should be back as well as others
if your there look for my white- martini #27 new 3

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Originally Posted by reidry
Any insight into the experience level of the Z06 driver and if was pushing the car to his full capability or if he was purposefully holding back (learning car or new to Sebring) ?

Ryan
Yeah, you're all correct.

This video was more to show how great this event is because you see all kinds of cool cars. Last year, I was proud to be considered the "unicorn" spotting, having a new GT3. This year, the Z06 was!

I can't speak to what the driver of the Z06 was doing and what his capacity is? What I can say is that on the straights, I wasn't really catching him. Then again, I was coming out of the pits from a tire pressure check and wasn't driving hard, so I was in fact "leaving a lot on the table." (I'm going to be posting a few other runs where I'm letting it all hang out. There will be no excuses there.) Like I stated, it was just neat when I realized it was the new Z06. I thought at first it was another Stingray.

Deacon, you are a FAST "son of a gun." I'm glad we had the chance to meet. I overheard several seasoned "super solo" driver's commenting on how fast you were (hoping they were talking about me, but no. It was you they were talking about.)
BTW, i see you updated your avatar, you sandbagger.
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Originally Posted by R.Deacon
Peter
I had breakfast with Peter Sunday and met the famous Chromium24, got up there Thursday Paddocked with Bob Verla's Foreign Affairs group , will be
with then and Suncoast P for the 48hours coming up in a couple of weeks, est8esq should be back as well as others
if your there look for my white- martini #27 new 3

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Saw your Tini car at Bob's. It looked really good. No 48 for me as I am porch less right now. Next event will be COTA with MVP in a better car than the WRX. I am sure we will cross paths in the future.

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Originally Posted by wanna911
Did you see the 1:29 at Road Atlanta or the 2:51 at VIR grand which would equate to a 1:56 on the full course?

This is just a better driver passing a slower one. I don't think you've hit the nail on that assertion.
I actually did...I have clearly indicated that this is my personal conclusion regarding both vehicles. I have very closely followed all the testing and updates on the Z06 and had a deposit on a Z06 so by the time I got the call last month to Spec my allocation It was very clear to me from what I have seen that it is inferior to a 991 Gt3 for track use so I decided to get a 991 GT3. I am still waiting to see how GM will, if ever resolve the overheating issue with a OE sloution
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Originally Posted by R.Deacon
Running in the same group with est8esq all I will say he was sub 2:20's in a

DE group ,little confused on your table size.
I never said that he was slow, just observing several wide turns due to more than ideal entery speeds


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