Brake fluid flush
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Which one did you end up using? I was planning to buy the Motive since it seemed to be the most popular brand, but after reading reviews there seem to be a lot of leaks, and a lot of people recommending to run the Motive dry.
I'm probably going to buy this Smotive Pro from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...WT26HZLN&psc=1). The build quality looks better than the Motive and the reviews seem to be much better (the only negative reviews were about the cap not fitting their car). Also comes with a catch bottle.
I'm probably going to buy this Smotive Pro from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...WT26HZLN&psc=1). The build quality looks better than the Motive and the reviews seem to be much better (the only negative reviews were about the cap not fitting their car). Also comes with a catch bottle.
SMOTIVEPRO 2L Manual Brake...
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peterp (05-13-2024)
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I have this exact one and bleeding my 991 GT3 and 996 was super easy. Did both last week and highly recommend this unit for $50 on Amazon
SMOTIVEPRO 2L Manual Brake... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095JYYQ2P...p_mob_ap_share
SMOTIVEPRO 2L Manual Brake... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B095JYYQ2P...p_mob_ap_share
In the 996 Turbo brake bleeding video below, they used the Motive but do not recommend because they had issues with it leaking. Heidi and Franny have some of the best "how to" videos on the internet. Their videos are longer than most, but not a minute is wasted because everything is covered in detail. Sadly (for us, though good for them), they've stopped doing car "how to's" and are now off on a sailing adventure.
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peterp (05-14-2024)
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I just replaced my entire brake system with PFC. Used the Motive to bleed. I had to buy a different cap than the one it came with - also worked on my Audi. No issues with pressure but the problem that I don't like is that the cap and the tube turn together. So you have to sort of make sure not to get it to kink when you turn it. I also found the tube likes to kink regardless.
Now I had 3 concerns - not specific to the Motive:
1. I put a lot of fluid in the pressure container as I just wasn't sure how much I was going to need. I wanted to flush the system but I couldn't figure out exactly how much was required for flushing as the prior fluid was also still pretty clear. I was replacing the system so I wanted to get as much new fluid as possible. In any case, when I went to take off the cap, the reservoir was filled to the top! So I had to use a turkey baster to get the rest out.
2. What to do with all the extra fluid?
I poured it in an empty water jug. No auto parts store would take it but fortunately Firestone did.
3. Cleaning the Motive - it says to use Denatured Alcohol. This stuff I got through Amazon. That was the easy part. Now that stuff is very flammable. I wasn't sure what to do with *that* ! I put some in the catch can and in the Motive pressure container and right now its still there. I know I could dump at a hazardous waste place but its of course on the wrong side of town and, ok, I'm lazy.
They say not to keep stuff like this in your garage - but I don't have a choice. On the other hand, my garage is temp controlled.
Anyway, suggestions on where to dump the used alcohol?
Now I had 3 concerns - not specific to the Motive:
1. I put a lot of fluid in the pressure container as I just wasn't sure how much I was going to need. I wanted to flush the system but I couldn't figure out exactly how much was required for flushing as the prior fluid was also still pretty clear. I was replacing the system so I wanted to get as much new fluid as possible. In any case, when I went to take off the cap, the reservoir was filled to the top! So I had to use a turkey baster to get the rest out.
2. What to do with all the extra fluid?
I poured it in an empty water jug. No auto parts store would take it but fortunately Firestone did.
3. Cleaning the Motive - it says to use Denatured Alcohol. This stuff I got through Amazon. That was the easy part. Now that stuff is very flammable. I wasn't sure what to do with *that* ! I put some in the catch can and in the Motive pressure container and right now its still there. I know I could dump at a hazardous waste place but its of course on the wrong side of town and, ok, I'm lazy.
They say not to keep stuff like this in your garage - but I don't have a choice. On the other hand, my garage is temp controlled.
Anyway, suggestions on where to dump the used alcohol?
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I just replaced my entire brake system with PFC. Used the Motive to bleed. I had to buy a different cap than the one it came with - also worked on my Audi. No issues with pressure but the problem that I don't like is that the cap and the tube turn together. So you have to sort of make sure not to get it to kink when you turn it. I also found the tube likes to kink regardless.
Now I had 3 concerns - not specific to the Motive:
1. I put a lot of fluid in the pressure container as I just wasn't sure how much I was going to need. I wanted to flush the system but I couldn't figure out exactly how much was required for flushing as the prior fluid was also still pretty clear. I was replacing the system so I wanted to get as much new fluid as possible. In any case, when I went to take off the cap, the reservoir was filled to the top! So I had to use a turkey baster to get the rest out.
2. What to do with all the extra fluid?
I poured it in an empty water jug. No auto parts store would take it but fortunately Firestone did.
3. Cleaning the Motive - it says to use Denatured Alcohol. This stuff I got through Amazon. That was the easy part. Now that stuff is very flammable. I wasn't sure what to do with *that* ! I put some in the catch can and in the Motive pressure container and right now its still there. I know I could dump at a hazardous waste place but its of course on the wrong side of town and, ok, I'm lazy.
They say not to keep stuff like this in your garage - but I don't have a choice. On the other hand, my garage is temp controlled.
Anyway, suggestions on where to dump the used alcohol?
Now I had 3 concerns - not specific to the Motive:
1. I put a lot of fluid in the pressure container as I just wasn't sure how much I was going to need. I wanted to flush the system but I couldn't figure out exactly how much was required for flushing as the prior fluid was also still pretty clear. I was replacing the system so I wanted to get as much new fluid as possible. In any case, when I went to take off the cap, the reservoir was filled to the top! So I had to use a turkey baster to get the rest out.
2. What to do with all the extra fluid?
I poured it in an empty water jug. No auto parts store would take it but fortunately Firestone did.
3. Cleaning the Motive - it says to use Denatured Alcohol. This stuff I got through Amazon. That was the easy part. Now that stuff is very flammable. I wasn't sure what to do with *that* ! I put some in the catch can and in the Motive pressure container and right now its still there. I know I could dump at a hazardous waste place but its of course on the wrong side of town and, ok, I'm lazy.
They say not to keep stuff like this in your garage - but I don't have a choice. On the other hand, my garage is temp controlled.
Anyway, suggestions on where to dump the used alcohol?
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If I need to bleed brakes several times a year (e.g., race car), I like using Speed Bleeders. I’ve used them on my old Spec Racers and Radical and now put them on my GT4 Clubsport.
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Is doing only the outer calipers a big deal? I’m guessing no way to get to the inners without taking these wheels off, at least for fronts and I would like to avoid dealing with CLs if possible. Is there a trick to doing this without lifting the car and with wheels on the car (and not make a mess)?
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Is doing only the outer calipers a big deal? I’m guessing no way to get to the inners without taking these wheels off, at least for fronts and I would like to avoid dealing with CLs if possible. Is there a trick to doing this without lifting the car and with wheels on the car (and not make a mess)?
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