Play in shock absorber - wear and tear?
#1
Play in shock absorber - wear and tear?
Car is a 2018 991.2 GT3 Touring. Mileage:14000 miles. Bone stock. At latest inspection the tech discovered a "play" in the upper mount of the front suspension. Since I have Porsche Approved I wasn't worried and they also said it will be covered. But yesterday they came back and said Porsche judged this as "wear and tear" and therefore it isn't covered under Approved...
Unfortunately I didn't see exactly where the play is but the workshop says the strut needs to be replaced. Since the car is >3 years, both sides should be replaced.
Now, I struggle a bit to understand how 14000 miles is enough to create a play in a component that is designed for many, many times that distance. Things can happen though, that's why I have Approved, so I am very disappointed to learn that Porsche says this is on me.
Any thoughts? TIA.
Unfortunately I didn't see exactly where the play is but the workshop says the strut needs to be replaced. Since the car is >3 years, both sides should be replaced.
Now, I struggle a bit to understand how 14000 miles is enough to create a play in a component that is designed for many, many times that distance. Things can happen though, that's why I have Approved, so I am very disappointed to learn that Porsche says this is on me.
Any thoughts? TIA.
#2
Out here we would call Porche Cars North America (Porsche corporate) and discuss exactly that. Unless the suspension is modified, the car is obviously abused or something, have a chat with the corporate.
#3
Thanks. I am first owner and I can guarantee the car is not abused. When I think of it, no one other than me has even driven the car. Sure, it has seen the track but I would judge max 10% of the mileage is on track. On top of that I tend to have a lot of "mechanical sympathy" towards my stuff, so I don't hit curbs etc. I don't get paid to set laptimes, I'm just having fun in a controlled environment.
As I said the car is bone stock, otherwise I would not been allowed the Approved. The service mgr at the dealer has handled the contact with PAG in my country and he says he's tried hard on my behalf but they wouldn't budge. I still think it is strange that something would start to develop play after this short mileage...
As I said the car is bone stock, otherwise I would not been allowed the Approved. The service mgr at the dealer has handled the contact with PAG in my country and he says he's tried hard on my behalf but they wouldn't budge. I still think it is strange that something would start to develop play after this short mileage...
#7
Car is a 2018 991.2 GT3 Touring. Mileage:14000 miles. Bone stock. At latest inspection the tech discovered a "play" in the upper mount of the front suspension. Since I have Porsche Approved I wasn't worried and they also said it will be covered. But yesterday they came back and said Porsche judged this as "wear and tear" and therefore it isn't covered under Approved...
Unfortunately I didn't see exactly where the play is but the workshop says the strut needs to be replaced. Since the car is >3 years, both sides should be replaced.
Now, I struggle a bit to understand how 14000 miles is enough to create a play in a component that is designed for many, many times that distance. Things can happen though, that's why I have Approved, so I am very disappointed to learn that Porsche says this is on me.
Any thoughts? TIA.
Unfortunately I didn't see exactly where the play is but the workshop says the strut needs to be replaced. Since the car is >3 years, both sides should be replaced.
Now, I struggle a bit to understand how 14000 miles is enough to create a play in a component that is designed for many, many times that distance. Things can happen though, that's why I have Approved, so I am very disappointed to learn that Porsche says this is on me.
Any thoughts? TIA.
I was also going to see if I could get this covered under warranty, So I am interested in how you make out.
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#8
Ah - thanks NHmacan! As I said, I haven't seen it myself, but I was told that they discovered it when the car was on the lift, i.e. wheels unloaded. I haven't felt anything while driving.
If what you say is what happened also to my car, I would like to understand if the washer just could be replaced?
If what you say is what happened also to my car, I would like to understand if the washer just could be replaced?
#9
What is Porsche Approved? The same as the Porsche Platinum Plan or CPO?
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#10
I am not familiar with those but Porsche Approved in Europe is something that is offered/possible after factory warranty runs out after two years. It is basically a prolongation of the factory warranty. Of course it comes with a cost, but I see it as an insurance. Preconditions are that the car is serviced/maintained by a Porsche dealer and that there are no aftermarket modifications done to the car.
Naturally, since I have fulfilled all of the conditions, I am more than a bit irritated that PAG decides that a failed shock absorber after 14000mi isn't covered by Approved.
Naturally, since I have fulfilled all of the conditions, I am more than a bit irritated that PAG decides that a failed shock absorber after 14000mi isn't covered by Approved.
Last edited by erik_plus8; 09-15-2023 at 02:19 AM.
#11
I am not familiar with those but Porsche Approved in Europe is something that is offered/possible after factory warranty runs out after two years. It is basically a prolongation of the factory warranty. Of course it comes with a cost, but I see it as an insurance. Preconditions are that the car is serviced/maintained by a Porsche dealer and that there are no aftermarket modifications done to the car.
Naturally, since I have fulfilled all of the conditions, I am more than a bit irritated that PAG decides that a failed shock absorber after 14000mi isn't covered by Approved.
Naturally, since I have fulfilled all of the conditions, I am more than a bit irritated that PAG decides that a failed shock absorber after 14000mi isn't covered by Approved.
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#12
Thanks for input! Hm, in my case the dealer tried to convince Porsche to allow Approved to kick in, in your case it was basically the other way around - Porsche trusts their dealer/technicians to make the decisions.
In the mean time I have contacted Porsche and started a "ticket". They will get back to me, let's see what happens.
In the mean time I have contacted Porsche and started a "ticket". They will get back to me, let's see what happens.
#13
Ah - thanks NHmacan! As I said, I haven't seen it myself, but I was told that they discovered it when the car was on the lift, i.e. wheels unloaded. I haven't felt anything while driving.
If what you say is what happened also to my car, I would like to understand if the washer just could be replaced?
If what you say is what happened also to my car, I would like to understand if the washer just could be replaced?
#14
Yep. I will also let my trusted Indi shop have a look, if Porsche persists in not wanting to help out.