Ted@dundonmotorsports

Yes, the mini-crack drones compared to the Loud muffler. The Loud muffler sounds pretty darn good to my ears.

Difficult to have your cake and eat it too. Feel free to give me a shout if you want to talk nuance.

M&Abanker4life

Talk me out of upgrading from the loud muffler + street headers to mini cats on crack

gravedgr

@Ted@dundonmotorsports between the headers, side delete only, rear muffler and mini crack pipe, what would you say most contributes to the RSR sound and also what is the primary source of any drone?

Ted@dundonmotorsports

@gravedgr Can't really point to one piece of the puzzle. The headers create the stronger suction wave (which makes the power), which you hear as the *snap* and the extra bark in the system. The side mufflers do a lot of work to reduce drone in the stock system. The mini crack combined with the lack of side mufflers and the extra pop the headers provide is really where you get the RSR sound.

It's tough to "have your cake and eat it too", but if you have some tolerance for loud and are comfortable driving around the RPM ranges where it's uncomfortable, the Street Header/Mini Crack is as close to RSR as you can get while still having some streetability.

Of course, everyone hears things differently, so your mileage may vary.

gravedgr

Thanks for the feedback. A FB poll plus comments here lead me to believe the lifetime muffler + street headers is the more livable combo for street driving with a bit of track and highway time.

Ted@dundonmotorsports

It's our most popular offering for a reason

stetty

I’ve had the full dundon system for a few years on my .2 GT3. Street headers, side deletes, loud lifetime muffler (believe it was called “black”/loud vs “orange”/quiet at the time). I have spent lots of time on track with this setup but also use around town. This system isn’t a compromise. It screams. With PDK it pops on up shifts under full throttle, sounds like a Glock firing. It is loud but glorious. And it provides more power. Ted mentions not having your cake and eating it too, I disagree. You’ll have frosting all over your face with this setup. Power, volume, pops and screaming exhaust at high rpms. With very little to no drone relative to others systems. Don’t hesitate.

gravedgr

Great feedback, thank you! I would have no hesitation if the cost wasn’t similar to the price of a used Corolla for my soon-to-be 16 year old.

Clementine33

I have the same arrangement on my .2 GT3RS, and it is worth every penny. My neighbors are not thrilled (at least, not in a good way) with how LOUD it is, but then I don't go to as much trouble as I should to keep the noise down. The pops on upshift do sound like a pistol which is particularly entertaining when you pass some lost dumbass going 10 miles under the speed limit on a fun mountain road. I have noticed some drone 2200-2500 RPM's, but it is not unpleasant, really.
I highly recommend this set-up at almost any price. I go out after a bad day at work, get some "3RS therapy," and I'm all smiles when I get back home. Cheaper than years of psychotherapy!

kamrandn

Has anyone tried the mini crackpipe just by itself?

Xec

By itself, it’s just a center bypass. It’s a lot to pay for just a center, but it is the loudest one by far with a good tone and timbre.

Vinh Nguyen

Wondering at what ranges does the minicrack + headers drone at?

I have the headers + loud right now and with valves open, I feel theres a little drone at 2500-2700 range and at idle. valves closed theres no drone at any range.

inspire

Mini crack pipe + headers is fine if you are driving around town or through the backroads. However if you are doing sustained long driving at freeway speeds, it will drone like crazy. Basically it drones just cruising at all RPMs in my opinion, or anytime you use past 10% throttle, which gets super annoying.

Vinh Nguyen

So even if you get to 7th gear at cruising speed it still drones with valves closed? Dang

inspire

Pretty much. It won't drone if you apply the tiniest throttle. The drone is somewhat like on a Street Headers + Center Muffler setup, where if you go up a small hill, it will drone super slightly since you are applying more throttle.

However with the crackpipe, the drone is just always there and more loud.