Torquing Center Lock w/Car on Ground
#46
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Hmm. Just googled torque multiplier. Something like this? https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...SAAEgIuYfD_BwE Anyone use this?
EDIT: NVM. Just read the reviews. There is no reading on the output torque, so this is simply a breaker tool. Not what we need. So.....Still looking for that $400 one. Where is it?
EDIT: NVM. Just read the reviews. There is no reading on the output torque, so this is simply a breaker tool. Not what we need. So.....Still looking for that $400 one. Where is it?
#47
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I bought this one last September, though it currently shows as unavailable from Amazon. Works great for me. It was $550, and seemed to be highly touted on Rennlist.
https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Torque-...ct_top?ie=UTF8
https://www.amazon.com/Drive-Torque-...ct_top?ie=UTF8
#48
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Here's the Central Tools one that looks identical to the one I bought from Snap On a few years ago (not sure where it's made):
https://www.jbtools.com/central-tool...caAnP9EALw_wcB
this is a Williams model, only 3.6:1 but made in USA:
https://www.toolsource.com/torque-mu...-p-114023.html
And finally what it looks like in use (you will want to use a piece of wood under the reaction bar unless you like divots in your garage floor!):
Last edited by montoya; 01-20-2022 at 09:21 PM.
#49
Drifting
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If you put a reasonable amount of preload onto the CL nut with the wheel still in the air prior to applying final torque with the wheel on the ground you will be fine. Put as much as you can on it by holding the tire and applying torque with a normal ratchet wrench, say 50 or 60 ft-lbs. That will have the conical face of the nut well engaged with the wheel. Final torque on the ground from there would be OK. That said, with the load on the interface from the vehicle weight you will not get the same preload between wheel and hub as you would doing final torque with the wheel in the air. In my engineering opinion, fine if you are caught short, but I'd follow Porsche recommendations if you can.
#50
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If the parking brake is on, then there is no reason not to fully torque the rears in the air (I do all 4 in the air, but only the fronts would be any easier on the ground).
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#51
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Yeah I don't know why he did it that way. I was there and didn't want to tell him how to do his job. But I asked him, "Hey so... doesn't Porsche instruct to torque them in the air?" And he said, "Yeah, but it's fine since I snugged them in the air and just doing the final torque, back-off, and re-torque on the ground is fine." I didn't argue with him but I didn't think it was ideal...
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#52
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Yeah I don't know why he did it that way. I was there and didn't want to tell him how to do his job. But I asked him, "Hey so... doesn't Porsche instruct to torque them in the air?" And he said, "Yeah, but it's fine since I snugged them in the air and just doing the final torque, back-off, and re-torque on the ground is fine." I didn't argue with him but I didn't think it was ideal...
#53
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#54
Quick question here on a new set of track wheels. Should I be checking the wheel torque after the first install since they are brand new? Maybe go do a quick rip on the highway first, then do the back off 60' and retorque procedure?
And from what I read here always do it with the wheel in the air.
And from what I read here always do it with the wheel in the air.
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Quick question here on a new set of track wheels. Should I be checking the wheel torque after the first install since they are brand new? Maybe go do a quick rip on the highway first, then do the back off 60' and retorque procedure?
And from what I read here always do it with the wheel in the air.
And from what I read here always do it with the wheel in the air.
Yes, I always loosen and tighten with wheels in the air.
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#56
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Is it best to torque in the air? Yes
is it ok to torque on the ground? Yes
Does porsche recommend slicks? No
Do we put slicks on? Yes
Does Porsche recommend screwing around with the PSMS? No
Do we? Yes
Lets face it guys, Porsche is going to set rules that they know we wont follow so they're protected in a liability lawsuit.
Everyone who owns a GT car should know how to change a center lock wheel by themselves. Unless you carry around some stupid brake holder and steering wheel lock mechanism, you torque on the ground. I’ve changed my wheels this way well over a 100 times. I track the crap out if my car. Don't waste your money on some fancy device. Buy a torque wrench and get to it.
is it ok to torque on the ground? Yes
Does porsche recommend slicks? No
Do we put slicks on? Yes
Does Porsche recommend screwing around with the PSMS? No
Do we? Yes
Lets face it guys, Porsche is going to set rules that they know we wont follow so they're protected in a liability lawsuit.
Everyone who owns a GT car should know how to change a center lock wheel by themselves. Unless you carry around some stupid brake holder and steering wheel lock mechanism, you torque on the ground. I’ve changed my wheels this way well over a 100 times. I track the crap out if my car. Don't waste your money on some fancy device. Buy a torque wrench and get to it.
I will say I am tempted to remove them with my latest cordless DeWalt impact gun (DCF961) which has 1750 ft lbs of breakaway torque - but so far have resisted the temptation. It probably would mess up the centerlock tool's mounting hole after a bit as those anvil hits in that thing are no joke.
#57
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I will say I am tempted to remove them with my latest cordless DeWalt impact gun (DCF961) which has 1750 ft lbs of breakaway torque - but so far have resisted the temptation. It probably would mess up the centerlock tool's mounting hole after a bit as those anvil hits in that thing are no joke.