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Old 01-13-2022, 05:14 PM
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Now the 4RS has the same engine as the GT3, anyone is considering making a switch?
I always like how the GT4 drives but that thing could use more power. Now the GT4RS has it.
Old 01-13-2022, 05:24 PM
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I'm on the list for one at my dealer. No guarantee I get to order but if it works out then I totally will. I have a Cayman R that I tracked for years and like you mentioned, power is really the only thing lacking in those cars. Cant say for sure I would give up the GT3 for the GT4RS but the possibility is there. It looks like it's going to be an awesome addition to the Cayman lineup!
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Not me. I like the concept but IMHO the 718 is long in the tooth. Much rather be in a 992. Especially given the actual prices paid for a 4RS aren't going to be any cheaper than a 992 GT3 when all is said and done.
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Old 01-13-2022, 07:06 PM
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For what will probably be one of the best track weapons out there the GT4RS makes sense. As a street vehicle it's not a 911 and thus isn't as desirable as a combo street/track car IMHO. I loved the original GT4 I had but when I test drove a 718GT4 after owning the GT3 I realized I couldn't go back.
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I understand the street manner of the 718 is not as nice as the 911.
For a fun track / mountain car, do you guys think moving from GT3 will disappoint?
I feel driving the GT3 on the street quite boring anyways.
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Originally Posted by DNSGT3
I understand the street manner of the 718 is not as nice as the 911.
For a fun track / mountain car, do you guys think moving from GT3 will disappoint?
I feel driving the GT3 on the street quite boring anyways.
I doubt it disappoints.

If I wanted a PDK track car, I’d give it serious consideration. But I think I’d end up in a 992 GT3.
Old 01-13-2022, 09:48 PM
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I had a 718 GT4 and really enjoyed it but I much prefer my 991.2 GT3. The entire experience is dialed up quite a bit. Perhaps the added power of the GT3 engine will make the 718 platform more interesting but it’s simply not a GT3. At MSRP it might make sense for some, certainly not if there is a heavy ADM. Add to that the fact that the Weissach package is a joke but almost necessary purely from an aesthetics perspective and 100% necessary if you want the magnesium wheels and it starts to make for a very expensive 718.
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Passed on getting one for $50k ADM. The issue I had is still try to neuter it just enough to not trounce on the GT3. The wheels are the same size as the GT4, despite having so much more power (bodywork was unchanged and really can only go one size up in the front); the downforce while better than the GT4 is still far, far below the GT3; the suspension is still the same strut based system on all 4 corners as the GT4. Really feel that if you already have a 991 GT3/RS, you're not getting that much more in performance (Cup 2 Rs on any 991 would go a long way to closing the gap).. and certainly with ADM pushing it into the $250k+ range, didn't make much sense for the purpose of a track weapon. Think the 992 GT3 is a better relative "value".
Old 01-14-2022, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FogCitySF
Passed on getting one for $50k ADM. The issue I had is still try to neuter it just enough to not trounce on the GT3. The wheels are the same size as the GT4, despite having so much more power (bodywork was unchanged and really can only go one size up in the front); the downforce while better than the GT4 is still far, far below the GT3; the suspension is still the same strut based system on all 4 corners as the GT4. Really feel that if you already have a 991 GT3/RS, you're not getting that much more in performance (Cup 2 Rs on any 991 would go a long way to closing the gap).. and certainly with ADM pushing it into the $250k+ range, didn't make much sense for the purpose of a track weapon. Think the 992 GT3 is a better relative "value".
GT4RS is certainly the car Porsche regret making. It only prove that mid-engine platform is much better than 911's rear-engine concept on the track, making GT3 become somewhat meaningless. Similar lap time with far less aero, narrow tyres, front/rear struct suspensions, no electronic diff, no rear wheel steering, and a development driver on the wheel pushing the car for only one lap.....
In fact, rear-engine and 4 seat are mainly designed for every day use, we should just buy a Carrera/Turbo for Daily Drive, that's what a 911 should be used for. If GT3 is the ultimate track car for someone who really cares about lap times, maybe he should just get rid of all these rear-engine nonsense and wait for another 911RSR.
Old 01-14-2022, 04:30 AM
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Drove down to LA & stared at it for quite some time & don't find my self desiring one. Side window air scoop looks super cool tho.
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Originally Posted by panmric
GT4RS is certainly the car Porsche regret making. It only prove that mid-engine platform is much better than 911's rear-engine concept on the track, making GT3 become somewhat meaningless. Similar lap time with far less aero, narrow tyres, front/rear struct suspensions, no electronic diff, no rear wheel steering, and a development driver on the wheel pushing the car for only one lap.....
In fact, rear-engine and 4 seat are mainly designed for every day use, we should just buy a Carrera/Turbo for Daily Drive, that's what a 911 should be used for. If GT3 is the ultimate track car for someone who really cares about lap times, maybe he should just get rid of all these rear-engine nonsense and wait for another 911RSR.
This is reminiscent of the PDK vs. MT debate. . .
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Prices in current market alter the equation against any changes or new acquisitions for me. I think the 4RS would be great alongside my .2 GT3 at MSRP, not $50-75K additional.
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I'd love to have one at MSRP but zero chance I'm paying the ADM that they're going to cost. $150-170k? Sure. $210-240k for a GT4RS? Nah. Whole lot of options at that price point.
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Old 01-14-2022, 01:23 PM
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If you can get them for a <$20k ADM i think it's a great value. No rear axle steering but it's an amazing car for the price.
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Old 01-14-2022, 01:25 PM
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Make sense ADM plays a heavy role in the decision making. Hypothetically, would you guys trade-in a 991.2 GT3 + $0 cash for the GT4RS?
Just want to know if there is any drawback on the Cayman chassis vs. the 911. I don't really chase the fastest lap time or DD duty but would focus on how much fun it is to drive on mountain road / track.
(For sure if you want a manual then the GT3 is hard to beat...)


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