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Old 07-16-2020, 09:39 AM
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Default So many WTF's. White .2-3RS owner just approached me,

masked up, with young child in car, to ask if I want to sell my Carrera T.
I responded with no, but thank you. Guy then comes back with how he's trying to sell the RS but can't. Or trade it but he can't find any Carrera T's. I say why Carrera T? He says, because he doesn't track the car and wants a manual. But here is where it gets odd, the car has a cage in it? He said he's the original owner. My car has 4000 miles which I think he said was similar mileage. So he then says, would you trade cars straight up? I said, I probably would yeah.

Why would someone buy an RS who doesn't track? Why would someone put a cage in that doesn't track? And then want to rid it so badly as to trade for a car worth 50k less, if not more.

I like my car and I would be in the same position as the current RS owner, in that I would hope to sell and buy a Carrera T again. I couldn't daily the RS because around the Tri state I pick up screws a fair amount and always need the space saver spare in the frunk. Never an issue of value, clearance, worry, simply the darn centerlock spare dilemma.

In a covid age I'm thinking the hassle might not be worth it. I like my current car for my needs a great deal. The guy could also not be as committed to losing his *** as he seemed. He looked honest though. Kid didn't look to be suffering.

Old 07-16-2020, 09:44 AM
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People put cages in the car all the time and don’t track it. They just want the look

other than that it sounds very very shady. When something is too good to be true it usually is....he obviously has no clue what he is doing....
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I had a Carrera T and have had 9 GT cars. I still regret selling the T. Manual and perfect in every way.

There is a reason why they are going up in value.
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Old 07-16-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by shapiroeric
People put cages in the car all the time and don’t track it. They just want the look

other than that it sounds very very shady. When something is too good to be true it usually is....he obviously has no clue what he is doing....
Agree

I would trade the Guy straight up and then sell the RS. Have no idea what he is smoking.

There will be other iterations of the Carrera T so I would not worry. And in Porsche fashion it will best the previous one.
Old 07-16-2020, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Agree

I would trade the Guy straight up and then sell the RS. Have no idea what he is smoking.

There will be other iterations of the Carrera T so I would not worry. And in Porsche fashion it will best the previous one.

I don’t think so. The 992 is far too digital to pull off what the T is about.
Old 07-16-2020, 10:35 AM
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I think it's safe to say most GT cars rarely or never make it to the track. Many buy them for their 'big dog' status, looks, sound, and potential to not lose $$ as fast as a normal 911. Cages, exhausts, aftermarket wheels, etc. are all added later to enhance the former.

The RS guy you ran into is either a complete idiot if he is so easily willing to take a $50k+ dive or there is something wrong with his RS (i.e. recent crash, stolen). Sounds too good to be true.
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Originally Posted by sgroer
I don’t think so. The 992 is far too digital to pull off what the T is about.
I guess that this would also apply to future GT3/RS/GT2/ect.
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Lol, so many assumptions here.. talk is cheap, trade him, no brainer.
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Go with him to a Porsche dealer to "have a look" at his car. Have them check the VIN and car to see if he's legit. If he is, that's your lucky day.
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@Ceepe maybe he thought you were driving a touring
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Exactly. Not sure why or how one lands on C-T over 3T. That said, I had a .2 GT3 prior to Carrera T and got over the loss of the delicious 4.0.
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Originally Posted by Ceepe
masked up, with young child in car, to ask if I want to sell my Carrera T.
I responded with no, but thank you. Guy then comes back with how he's trying to sell the RS but can't. Or trade it but he can't find any Carrera T's. I say why Carrera T? He says, because he doesn't track the car and wants a manual. But here is where it gets odd, the car has a cage in it? He said he's the original owner. My car has 4000 miles which I think he said was similar mileage. So he then says, would you trade cars straight up? I said, I probably would yeah.
Why would someone buy an RS who doesn't track? Why would someone put a cage in that doesn't track? And then want to rid it so badly as to trade for a car worth 50k less, if not more.
I like my car and I would be in the same position as the current RS owner, in that I would hope to sell and buy a Carrera T again. I couldn't daily the RS because around the Tri state I pick up screws a fair amount and always need the space saver spare in the frunk. Never an issue of value, clearance, worry, simply the darn centerlock spare dilemma.
In a covid age I'm thinking the hassle might not be worth it. I like my current car for my needs a great deal. The guy could also not be as committed to losing his *** as he seemed. He looked honest though. Kid didn't look to be suffering.
Makes no sense. You can find Carrera T's at dealers across the country and the net difference is $50k+. I don't know about you, but for a lot of folks, I'd go through the week or two of hassles to make $50k on this transaction. So in reality this post is dumb.

Straight face, just tell the guy to meet you at the DMV on specific date with the title and swap. Then drive away, don't even bother to ask for books or extra keys....lol
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Old 07-16-2020, 01:23 PM
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gotta get the cage for the cars and coffee flex.

yes this seems very odd. i'm not sure why he wouldn't just trade into a dealer for cash (cant be that bad can it?) and just wait for a T to pop up. There is probably something wrong with the car.

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OK- don't jump into a deal without due diligence. It's quite possible the car has track damage (body work) that will never show up on Carfax. If he's serious, do a CPI then if OK, take it to a high end body shop to have them inspect for signs of damage and repair. In fairness you can put your car through the same process. I would write up the deal with the contingency being that both cars have no issues in both inspections.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by montoya
OK- don't jump into a deal without due diligence. It's quite possible the car has track damage (body work) that will never show up on Carfax. If he's serious, do a CPI then if OK, take it to a high end body shop to have them inspect for signs of damage and repair. In fairness you can put your car through the same process. I would write up the deal with the contingency being that both cars have no issues in both inspections.

Good luck!
I know we are just BS'ing and full of hypotheticals, but my buddy spent $18k to repair his GT3 rear driver side quarter and driver side door, wheel and some suspension components after a crash at Road America. $50k in damage is pretty darn high. My point is that even if there was a lot of damage, it's still worth more than a no story T on trade in. There are plenty of folks, including me that would buy a beatup RS as a track car if the price was low enough. $100k for a RS with stories sound good to me. But I hear you about doing your due diligence.

Think of a beatup RS as a nice alternative to a Clubsport. A lot of street car components to keep operating costs low with close to Cup Car performance without that maintenance cost.


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