ajw45

Is it a big deal to just add the smfw? Seems like it should be no problem to just swap in the factory part so given limited available cars this is one of the options that actually shouldn't matter? Or is there something I'm missing?

Jimmy-D

I also think it was noted the the SMFW does not really serve any function in the 911R

bluehorseshoe

You can add for under $10k, I believe. Although, I've never known it to be done. In my experience, I think the SMFW provides a more direct throttle response. Clear difference in feel between GT3/Speedster and 911R throttle response. 911R is more direct and immediate. I'm no mechanic, so I can't tell you if the SMFW is the culprit or not. I can just tell you that there's a notable difference in feel between cars.

MacFever

Did you also feel a difference between the GT3 and the Speedster ?
Speedster having individual throttle bodies

Monaco2711

In my opinion the smfw is unnecessary if you daily the car, unless you have a stretch of autobahn to get to work or a nice twisty road to get to work. Let's also remember that a car with the smfw makes a lot more noises inside the cabin, noises which are cool if driven hard and not so cool if stuck in traffic. I commute in traffic with the car, it would only be annoying for me. But, it is mostly what differenciated the 911r (besides all the other stuff: limited, different engine bla bla bla) from the gt3 touring, which is 100k cheaper and has a better engine, and what really made it special compared to other cars when it came out. But I know the owner and he doesn't need to sell, so if I offer him less he will probably just keep it or wait for a better offer, in which case I will probably step back and maybe look for a good deal on a 991 touring

MacFever

If you do daily heavy commuting perhaps you should consider pdk

Monaco2711

I drive a turbo s daily since a long time, but I never fell in love with the car. It is, for me, a little bit soulless.
I Love the R, it is so special and unique, and I love the looks of the 991.1 version still more than any other Porsche.
Simply I never bought with premiums, and it pisses me off a bit but hey, at least it's a small one

MacFever

Yes I feel the same but manual is a no go for me with the heavy traffic in Brussels
My ideal car would be the R in pdk
I have even thought about getting both the R and the 991.1 GT3 RS and swap the transmissions and sell the RS after that...

Monaco2711

Probaby better to wait for the 992 gt3 touring, I have a feeling they might offer it with a pdk?

What you say does make sense, a manual could on a long run become a pain in traffic, but they are just so cool and going to become rarer and rarer in time so I figured why not buy one and daily it

MacFever

If you can manage the manual in traffic it is a good plan

ashephil

Below is an interview with Andreas Preuninger explaining the unique features of the 911R. At 3.35 he comments on the SMFW, which I think I hear is a weight adv of .3KG. Having driven both, the SMFW does add to the 911R experience, as the sound and engagement is very different. That said, if I were to daily drive one (which I won’t), I might opt for the dual. My preference was to purchase one with the single.

Bruce911_

Spot on! Couldn’t have said it better myself

Monaco2711

Sure, it does save weight and make the car feel a little bit more agile, and it does make a different sound when at very low speeds but I would be curious to know if the sound is much different when you are pushing the car (compared to a double mass). Regardless, apparently the single mass does make a lot of difference on the price of the car. At least this is what I am experiencing during my research

FLGT

I wouldn't buy an R without SMFW, as to me at least, it is part of its uniqueness.

Monaco2711

True. So would you rather buy a 911r at a fair price or wait for the 992 with its modern interior, opf, etc..?