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Hi Guys/Girls, I recently purchased a 2018 911 GT3 (4L 991.2) which I’ve had for around 3-4 weeks, so I’m still taking things steady while I’m still sussing the car out. Whilst I was out on Sunday I approached a roundabout, stopped to let traffic go then pulled out and went round the roundabout increased ( very gradually) the speed to around 35 MPH as I exited. The back end immediately kicked out to the right, I quickly turned to the right to catch the car, I overdid that so the car went the other way and I managed to turn the other way and steady the car. Conditions on the road were dry with various wet patches (including my pants now!!!) which I had probably hit when the rear end went, to be honest I was totally shocked and shaken at how poorly the car performed (had it not been a dual carriageway and really quiet I would have gone into someone at the side of me, if it been a normal road I would have probably had a head on collision) I could have gone through the same route in my wife’s Santa Fe or any Ford Fiesta etc at 45-50 MPH with no problems.

Am I missing something! The tyres are massive at the rear, the suspension set-up is supposed to be world class ( most GT3 owners must have watched Chris Harris going round a circuit at incredible speeds) there are various electronic safety features built into the car ( I was just in basic mode i.e, nothing sporty and no esp switched off)

It’s now made me worried about driving it, I previously had a BMW M2 and this could be twitchy when things got wet/damp (all rearwheel drive cars a prone to this) but I’ve never lost a car like that, and I’ve been driving for 35 years. Is this something other GT3 drivers are aware of or is this something that makes you think somethings not correct with my car,

I would appreciate some feedback please, this is my first 911 but like I mentioned I have had rear wheel drive cars, I’m aware that in general with the 911 it’s slow into corners and fast out. Thanks in advance!

Feld

What was the temperature? Tires?

shapiroeric

Where do you live?....Outside temp?....time of day?....how long had you been driving?....wet spots as in puddles or just damp spots?

Not to bruise your ego but having the end kick out is driver error....we've all done it....too much gas in the wrong spot and less than optimal conditions...

Muu83

I think it's more tire than car, as CUP2 need some heat into them, it's amazing when they're stone cold how easy it is to slide them around.

PS4S are a nice winter option, at least here in the UK, and I noticed Chris Harris has put some on his new yellow touring

neurotic

Unless it’s about 90 degrees outside, i rarely get enough temp in the cup2 for them to actually function.....if you drive your gt3 on the street mainly, consider ps4

Maverick787

Cold tires will = no traction and the car will spin and traction control will help but allow some slippage. You’re driving a fairly light car with 500 HP can’t change physics. Very hard to slide a GT car with warm tires at 35 MPH.

LionelB

Most likely cold tires as others said.

GrantG

Get some track time, or at minimum some time in an large open parking lot to learn the car’s behavior.

If you’ve never had a 911 before, you’re jumping into the deep end of the pool with GT3. Get some instruction too (formal or at least informal from someone with lots of experience)

Holdens

Another reason I like this car. Even with the “nannies” on you can get some slide going.

The car will sort itself out as long as you don’t do anything “stupid”.

LexVan

Sounds like fun.

Start auto crossing with your local PCA. That will help you.

TRAKCAR

Old (What's the date stamp?) / cold tires?

CubsFan1

Good to hear nothing happened aside from the learning experience. Agree with others, likely just temp, tires and obviously loss of traction at an unanticipated spot. Can happen easily to anyone. I suspect you’ll learn the car over time and will acclimate based on your confidence and knowledge of how the car reacts in various situations.

Your story brought back a memory from 21 years past. My younger brother had just turned 21 and naturally we were in Vegas. Decided to rent a Viper GTS coupe for the day. This was back when you could drive over the damn. Anyhow, before selecting the car we were out inspecting the tires. As cars guys we knew the importance of that, as this was not going to be a valet queen for the weekend. One unit had roughly 2 32nds, obviously worn, and the other new. There was an older couple in front of us who heard us talking about the tires and they grabbed that one first. We didn’t relent and made them drive us to another facility to pick up a GTS that had good tires. While finishing the paperwork the older couple came back inside after driving the Viper for 10 minutes. The man asked the attendant where the traction control was...and of course it didn’t have that feature. He immediately rented another car. My brother and I could only smile inside. The sales associate laughed as well, said a couple weeks prior one driver didn’t make it a block away before taking the viper over the median and took out a palm tree with it.

Enjoy your new car!

Cheers

996AE

At DE Sunday second turn, first lap out GT3 driver looped it in front of me. 45 degrees outside 9:00am

Cold tires and a lack of talent

Seat time and understanding your car and how it response to inputs is critical

Good thing he was learning on the track - A little surprised to see in RED run group but still a good lesson for drivers

Perimeter

Sell the GT3 and get back into the BMW, that is your comfort zone.

One of the most fun exercises at PEC ATL DE is the slip circuit. You can have loads of fun exploring the "break-free" limit and play with that edge until you learn it and it is predictable

Archimedes

Nice response to someone coming on here looking for a little help...