silvertige

Yeah, not a fan of black, black, black... black, lol. But I know someone will love that style.

silvertige

I agree with you, but I still don't quite understand the no wing equals more want.

GrantG

With the 992 GT3, the winged version is going to make an even bigger performance gap to the Touring. Whether swan-neck alone or with active aero, there is going to be much more downforce (and possibly less drag) than Touring.

Won’t matter below triple digits, but not sure even a Touring is the most suitable car for driving below triple digits.

Porsche911GTS'16

I think the interest in the Touring is multi-factorial. It was not available as an option until later in the production cycle (so fewer were made), some (such as myself) saw the Touring as a car I could spec to my liking and it would share the same ethos as the R (but with a better engine than the R). Others (myself included on this as well) prefer the more understated look of the wingless Touring without sacrificing performance (at speeds that I will drive the car). For people such as myself who will rarely (if ever) track the car, the wing does not have much performance benefit, so it becomes a matter of whether you prefer the look of the winged or wingless GT3. Also, I think now some people are looking at the 991.2 GT3T as a good long-term investment. It is not as rare as the R and it is not a numbered car like the R, but it is still pretty rare in the grand scheme of things, when considering the number of 991.2 GT3s that were produced overall.

The 992 Touring is going to be a very different car compared to the 991.2 Touring, both inside and out. It is going to be much more tech-y. For some, that is awesome. For others (such as myself, who prefer analogue) that is to the detriment of the driving experience. I guarantee that the 992 Touring will sell in greater numbers relative to the winged GT3 than it did with the 991.2. I am not saying more Tourings will be made than winged GT3s, but I am saying that without a doubt, more Tourings will be made on a percentage basis compared to the 991.2.

chance6

I would suspect that order of value has always been the case. That said, I love looking in my rear view and seeing that big-*ss wing back there. Adds to excitement for me.

fxz

not sure there will be for 992 Touring such big numbers
just look that in EU we don t have neither the base Carreras in manual yet ( emissions fees)

not sure neither that the concept of 911 Touring can be linked to a "techy" 911
to me the radio delete or the old fashion 991 is more natural than a audi-panamera digital screens 992
also from an exterior style the 992 is inspired by 930 and later 911s
whilst the first Touring came way before

I see the 992 style to be perfectly linked to a old Turbo 911 from the 80ies rather than one old 911 from the late sixties/early seventies era

Nacelle

Looks naked without it to my eyes, not in a kindly manner. There’s no accounting for taste however... I love seeing it in my rear view mirror.

Holdens

I like NOT being asked how fast it will go.



have yet to be asked with a wingless car.

Bruce911_

I had a ‘16 RS and then a ‘19. While they both were great cars and got all the attention (which I could care less about) I kept second guessing myself for not getting a Touring when I had the opportunity to order one. I decided to look for a Touring and sell my RS. I was lucky to find a ‘19 Touring with 100 miles on it last month. I absolutely love the Touring and the way it looks, so clean and understated. It’s the perfect car for me, but some prefer a wing and there is nothing wrong with that. Buy what you like. I did and couldn’t be happier! It feels so much smaller and to me more nimble than the RS.
As far as the 992 I wasn’t a big fan of the new interior but I understand the need to have more tech to compete with other brands. I think I found my keeper. I also have an ‘88 Carrera that I bought new so now it has its long term garage mate. I don’t feel the need to get the latest and greatest. Time to stop writing and go for a drive.

silvertige

Yeah, that does seem to be the case to a certain degree. And, yes, love seeing the obstruction in the rear view, haha.

mooty

keeper for sure


amen

Vintage72

Look, I track my cars a few weekends a year and I, like most of you, have owned many a car. I do not care one lick that my Touring is SLOWER on track or anywhere else than the winged 911s or the pdk cars or the winged pdk cars. Its slower than many many many cars I could own. I much prefer the Touring as for me its the perfect back roads, weekend car, date car, occasional HPDE car. Its a blast everywhere I drive it and I love the fact that it is under the radar - manual required.

Now, if any of you want to let me drive your winged cars on track, I would love to do so. And, if a GT2RS drops in my lap at the right price, I am buying it!

prl

I agree... it would be in someone’s best interest to make a high quality fixed after market duck bill using the two ducts for us winged guys to buy..... because of the depreciation and the fact I love my winged car, I don’t want to trade it in and I want to keep it forever... however, having a fixed non wing (small duckbill) using the factory style ducts would be great to have on the car and for the 4-5 track day events a year put my wing back on. A gt2rs wing is waaaaayy to much money and doesn’t look quite right without the wing.

I wonder if us winged guys could have a group buy/development proposed to today tech art? To make an option....

Nizer

If Porsche are geniuses then Ferrari are savants. Was in Ferrari NE yday and couldn't believe some of the specs on displays. At least four cars with upwards of $200k in options. Crazy.

colleyt

I remember reading the OP days before accepting the counter offer on my 18 6spd. It felt great knowing I wasn't on the wrong end and I don't know anyone who wouldn't.

My GT3 was a bad investment - I lit my GT3 on fire - Is this news... Obviously these posts are aimed at people in the market but it always turns into a debate on who drives more and group therapy for anyone who paid an ADM. I'm half joking but you're literally answering a question nobody asked.