Production numbers for GT2 RS?
#121
Used inventory on Cars.com and Autotrader.com has sat at around 70 cars for months. Don't see that changing much until sellers (mostly dealers) get more realistic on pricing. Some are starting to but many cars have been sitting since middle of last year.
https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...62520&zc=02108
Private sellers seem to be getting a little more realistic. This particular car has been listed since middle of last year. Started out in the high 300's; now $318 ask. That's well below MSRP for a 164mi car.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2045/overview/
Chatter on new GT cars will continue to ramp up from here and there's nothing unique enough about these cars, unlike say a 997.2 3RS 4.0L, to make them collector items (at least for quite a few years). 992 GT cars will exceed current gen - performance, price, numbers - of that you can be sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ns35JKGFyk
At least - slightly more for PTS cars in a desirable color, less for cars with low-spec builds or without Mg wheels.
None of the above takes away from the fact that it's an awesome car. Just don't kid yourself that they won't continue to depreciate.
https://www.cars.com/for-sale/search...62520&zc=02108
Private sellers seem to be getting a little more realistic. This particular car has been listed since middle of last year. Started out in the high 300's; now $318 ask. That's well below MSRP for a 164mi car.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2045/overview/
Chatter on new GT cars will continue to ramp up from here and there's nothing unique enough about these cars, unlike say a 997.2 3RS 4.0L, to make them collector items (at least for quite a few years). 992 GT cars will exceed current gen - performance, price, numbers - of that you can be sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ns35JKGFyk
At least - slightly more for PTS cars in a desirable color, less for cars with low-spec builds or without Mg wheels.
None of the above takes away from the fact that it's an awesome car. Just don't kid yourself that they won't continue to depreciate.
#123
I mentioned this in the past, some very good porsche contacts stated our numbers are wrong and laughed. How could that be? Specifically stated those stats on the gt2rs are high but wouldnt follow through and tell me details why. Thoughts? Just keeping the mystery alive?
#124
Every Vin is provable so the numbers are certainly not “laughably high”. Here’s the most up to date we have.
Total 991 Production 2012-2020 = 233,540 units WW
991 GT Production - 34,048 units WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2019 Speedster - 1,948 / 717
18/19 GT2RS - 3,751 / 1,315
2019 GT3RS - 4,750 / 1,760 (1,465 +295)
18/19 GT3 - 9,520 / 3,250
2016 911R - 991 / 325
2016 GT3RS - 4,520 / 1,530 (1,318 +212)
2016 GTS RennSport - 25 / 25
2016 GTS Club Coupe - 60 / 60
14-16 GT3 - 6,520 / 2,205
2014 GTS 50th anniversary- 1963 / 750?
991 Turbo Series - 34,050 units WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
991.2 Turbo - 5,200 / 1,647
991.2 Turbo S - 9,900 / 3,193
991.2 Exclusive Series - 700 (500 +200) / 318
991.1 Turbo - 5,350 / 1,712
991.1 Turbo S - 12,900 / 4,132
997 GT Production - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2011 GT3RS 4.0 - 613 / 158 (141 +17)
2011 Speedster - 361 / 110 (103 +7)
2011 GT2RS - 510 / 142 (132 +10)
10/11 GT3RS - 1,619 / 612 (541 +71)
10/11 GT3 - 2,256 / 715 (656 +59)
2010 Sport Classic - 256 / 85
08/09 GT2 - 1,242 / 238 (196 +42)
07/08 GT3RS - 1,909 / 453 (411 +42)
07/08 GT3 - 3,329 / 963 (917 +46)
2006 PCA Club Coupe - 50 / 50
997 Turbo Series - WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
997.2 Turbo - 5,053 (3,301 +1,752) / 1,489
997 Turbo S - 5,150 (3,095 +2,055) / 2,333
997.1 Turbo - 21,725 (15,626 +6,099) / 7,632
Porsche Halo Series - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
1973 Carrera RS 2.7 - 1,583 produced
2004-2006 Carrera GT - 1,270 / 676
2014-2016 918 Spyder - 918 / 329 (297 +32)
Total 991 Production 2012-2020 = 233,540 units WW
991 GT Production - 34,048 units WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2019 Speedster - 1,948 / 717
18/19 GT2RS - 3,751 / 1,315
2019 GT3RS - 4,750 / 1,760 (1,465 +295)
18/19 GT3 - 9,520 / 3,250
2016 911R - 991 / 325
2016 GT3RS - 4,520 / 1,530 (1,318 +212)
2016 GTS RennSport - 25 / 25
2016 GTS Club Coupe - 60 / 60
14-16 GT3 - 6,520 / 2,205
2014 GTS 50th anniversary- 1963 / 750?
991 Turbo Series - 34,050 units WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
991.2 Turbo - 5,200 / 1,647
991.2 Turbo S - 9,900 / 3,193
991.2 Exclusive Series - 700 (500 +200) / 318
991.1 Turbo - 5,350 / 1,712
991.1 Turbo S - 12,900 / 4,132
997 GT Production - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2011 GT3RS 4.0 - 613 / 158 (141 +17)
2011 Speedster - 361 / 110 (103 +7)
2011 GT2RS - 510 / 142 (132 +10)
10/11 GT3RS - 1,619 / 612 (541 +71)
10/11 GT3 - 2,256 / 715 (656 +59)
2010 Sport Classic - 256 / 85
08/09 GT2 - 1,242 / 238 (196 +42)
07/08 GT3RS - 1,909 / 453 (411 +42)
07/08 GT3 - 3,329 / 963 (917 +46)
2006 PCA Club Coupe - 50 / 50
997 Turbo Series - WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
997.2 Turbo - 5,053 (3,301 +1,752) / 1,489
997 Turbo S - 5,150 (3,095 +2,055) / 2,333
997.1 Turbo - 21,725 (15,626 +6,099) / 7,632
Porsche Halo Series - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
1973 Carrera RS 2.7 - 1,583 produced
2004-2006 Carrera GT - 1,270 / 676
2014-2016 918 Spyder - 918 / 329 (297 +32)
#125
Every Vin is provable so the numbers are certainly not “laughably high”. Here’s the most up to date we have.
Total 991 Production 2012-2020 = 233,540 units WW
991 GT Production - 34,048 units WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2019 Speedster - 1,948 / 717
18/19 GT2RS - 3,751 / 1,315
2019 GT3RS - 4,750 / 1,760 (1,465 +295)
18/19 GT3 - 9,520 / 3,250
2016 911R - 991 / 325
2016 GT3RS - 4,520 / 1,530 (1,318 +212)
2016 GTS RennSport - 25 / 25
2016 GTS Club Coupe - 60 / 60
14-16 GT3 - 6,520 / 2,205
2014 GTS 50th anniversary- 1963 / 750?
991 Turbo Series - 34,050 units WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
991.2 Turbo - 5,200 / 1,647
991.2 Turbo S - 9,900 / 3,193
991.2 Exclusive Series - 700 (500 +200) / 318
991.1 Turbo - 5,350 / 1,712
991.1 Turbo S - 12,900 / 4,132
997 GT Production - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2011 GT3RS 4.0 - 613 / 158 (141 +17)
2011 Speedster - 361 / 110 (103 +7)
2011 GT2RS - 510 / 142 (132 +10)
10/11 GT3RS - 1,619 / 612 (541 +71)
10/11 GT3 - 2,256 / 715 (656 +59)
2010 Sport Classic - 256 / 85
08/09 GT2 - 1,242 / 238 (196 +42)
07/08 GT3RS - 1,909 / 453 (411 +42)
07/08 GT3 - 3,329 / 963 (917 +46)
2006 PCA Club Coupe - 50 / 50
997 Turbo Series - WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
997.2 Turbo - 5,053 (3,301 +1,752) / 1,489
997 Turbo S - 5,150 (3,095 +2,055) / 2,333
997.1 Turbo - 21,725 (15,626 +6,099) / 7,632
Porsche Halo Series - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
1973 Carrera RS 2.7 - 1,583 produced
2004-2006 Carrera GT - 1,270 / 676
2014-2016 918 Spyder - 918 / 329 (297 +32)
Total 991 Production 2012-2020 = 233,540 units WW
991 GT Production - 34,048 units WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2019 Speedster - 1,948 / 717
18/19 GT2RS - 3,751 / 1,315
2019 GT3RS - 4,750 / 1,760 (1,465 +295)
18/19 GT3 - 9,520 / 3,250
2016 911R - 991 / 325
2016 GT3RS - 4,520 / 1,530 (1,318 +212)
2016 GTS RennSport - 25 / 25
2016 GTS Club Coupe - 60 / 60
14-16 GT3 - 6,520 / 2,205
2014 GTS 50th anniversary- 1963 / 750?
991 Turbo Series - 34,050 units WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
991.2 Turbo - 5,200 / 1,647
991.2 Turbo S - 9,900 / 3,193
991.2 Exclusive Series - 700 (500 +200) / 318
991.1 Turbo - 5,350 / 1,712
991.1 Turbo S - 12,900 / 4,132
997 GT Production - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
2011 GT3RS 4.0 - 613 / 158 (141 +17)
2011 Speedster - 361 / 110 (103 +7)
2011 GT2RS - 510 / 142 (132 +10)
10/11 GT3RS - 1,619 / 612 (541 +71)
10/11 GT3 - 2,256 / 715 (656 +59)
2010 Sport Classic - 256 / 85
08/09 GT2 - 1,242 / 238 (196 +42)
07/08 GT3RS - 1,909 / 453 (411 +42)
07/08 GT3 - 3,329 / 963 (917 +46)
2006 PCA Club Coupe - 50 / 50
997 Turbo Series - WW (Coupe +Cab) / NA Production
997.2 Turbo - 5,053 (3,301 +1,752) / 1,489
997 Turbo S - 5,150 (3,095 +2,055) / 2,333
997.1 Turbo - 21,725 (15,626 +6,099) / 7,632
Porsche Halo Series - WW / NA (USA +Canada)
1973 Carrera RS 2.7 - 1,583 produced
2004-2006 Carrera GT - 1,270 / 676
2014-2016 918 Spyder - 918 / 329 (297 +32)
Do you have the Vin range for the gt2rs? I'm happy to run an automated script against vin analytics to verify
#126
here are the VIN ranges for all 991 GT3/RS models. I’ll try and locate the vin ranges for 2018 and 2019 GT2RS.
NA 2019 GT3RS I have narrowed down to KS164064 through KS165951.
if you can also run NA 2019 Speedster it would be great (KS172001-KS174000).
Last edited by Dot23RS; 12-14-2020 at 04:46 PM.
#128
this is why you have to use dealersite/vinanalytics to check how many build sheets and then also use carfax/autocheck to verify how many in the range are actual VINs through NHTSA.
my production numbers above use both of these techniques as well as thousands of VINS hand checked and every option input into a spreadsheet to break out options.
Last edited by Dot23RS; 12-14-2020 at 05:05 PM.