991.1 versus 991.2 Motors
11-27-2018, 10:04 PM
#31
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For me, the improved torque, RWS, suspension, steering, and PCM were worth the upgrade, but I’d never disparage any new buyer who choose the .1 over the .2 given the current price delta.
11-27-2018, 10:29 PM
#33
Pro
I can’t really chime in on the technical stuff but between my .1 and my .2 the biggest differences were the mid range torque and the manual trans.
Most importantly, I drive my .2 way more than my .1. I enjoy it more and I can’t get enough of it. I was always on the fence about selling my .1 and with the .2 I simply don’t care. I get so much enjoyment out of it that it doesn’t even matter what’s next or if I take a bath. It’s got 6k miles in one year and I can’t even count how many track days. 3 sets of rear tires, 2 sets of fronts, new rotors, new pads, and I couldn’t be happier.
Hope this helps but ultimately do what your gut tells you and just make sure you buy it and beat the crap out of it.
Most importantly, I drive my .2 way more than my .1. I enjoy it more and I can’t get enough of it. I was always on the fence about selling my .1 and with the .2 I simply don’t care. I get so much enjoyment out of it that it doesn’t even matter what’s next or if I take a bath. It’s got 6k miles in one year and I can’t even count how many track days. 3 sets of rear tires, 2 sets of fronts, new rotors, new pads, and I couldn’t be happier.
Hope this helps but ultimately do what your gut tells you and just make sure you buy it and beat the crap out of it.
06-07-2019, 12:08 AM
#34
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I purchased a black on black 2016 GT3 2 months ago. Like you, It is my retirement present. I considered the Turbo S, which is wicked fast between the lights. But ended up with the GT3. I ran SCCA many years ago and the GT3 brought back memories. Not a great daily driver, but one heck of a track car. I haven’t put a lot of miles on it yet, but so far so good. And hands down, the best sounding Porsche made. Sounds like an F1 car, turns a lot of heads. I have the Fabspeed center delete. Planning some track time next month. We’ll see if the engine holds up.
06-07-2019, 01:41 AM
#35
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I purchased a black on black 2016 GT3 2 months ago. Like you, It is my retirement present. I considered the Turbo S, which is wicked fast between the lights. But ended up with the GT3. I ran SCCA many years ago and the GT3 brought back memories. Not a great daily driver, but one heck of a track car. I haven’t put a lot of miles on it yet, but so far so good. And hands down, the best sounding Porsche made. Sounds like an F1 car, turns a lot of heads. I have the Fabspeed center delete. Planning some track time next month. We’ll see if the engine holds up.
06-07-2019, 02:19 AM
#36
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Thor.
Buddy if you go out and drive a .1 and a .2 back to back you will be able to take the Pepsi challenge and win every time. Without question but it's not like the difference between a Camry and a V8 Camaro.
If the difference in price precludes you from purchasing a .2 then don't even worry about it and buy a .1 and you'll love it and won't miss what you don't have. Just put those bench races out of your mind between the two.
I tell you if you're the guy who parks your car way out on the end of the parking lot to avoid a ding, you're gonna get an a$$hole that'll park right there and ding you.
If you buy a .1 GT3 and worry about the engine failing all the time... don't worry! Again, we can thank Rob and Co. another for the mega engine warranty with these .1 cars. 10 years! 120k miles! Unheard of. Epic!
My very best advice would be to purchase a CPO .1 car with a nice stack of paperwork and enjoy the hell out of the car. You won't regret it for a second.
Owning a GT3 or any Porsche for that matter without a bumper to bumper CPO warranty is like spending the night at Charlie Sheen's house. Anything can happen!
You may spend a few extra bucks on the purchase price of the car but buy from a Porsche dealer. You'll get a CPO (certified pre owned) car with that pink sheet that shows the "in service" date and when your CPO ends.
If I worried about door dings I know I'd have a hundred of them because I drive this car everywhere and park anywhere I want and I don't have a ding anywhere. It's the Murphy's Law thing. Ha ha.
If you're concerned about driving it and breaking it, take a look at this.
Buddy if you go out and drive a .1 and a .2 back to back you will be able to take the Pepsi challenge and win every time. Without question but it's not like the difference between a Camry and a V8 Camaro.
If the difference in price precludes you from purchasing a .2 then don't even worry about it and buy a .1 and you'll love it and won't miss what you don't have. Just put those bench races out of your mind between the two.
I tell you if you're the guy who parks your car way out on the end of the parking lot to avoid a ding, you're gonna get an a$$hole that'll park right there and ding you.
If you buy a .1 GT3 and worry about the engine failing all the time... don't worry! Again, we can thank Rob and Co. another for the mega engine warranty with these .1 cars. 10 years! 120k miles! Unheard of. Epic!
My very best advice would be to purchase a CPO .1 car with a nice stack of paperwork and enjoy the hell out of the car. You won't regret it for a second.
Owning a GT3 or any Porsche for that matter without a bumper to bumper CPO warranty is like spending the night at Charlie Sheen's house. Anything can happen!
You may spend a few extra bucks on the purchase price of the car but buy from a Porsche dealer. You'll get a CPO (certified pre owned) car with that pink sheet that shows the "in service" date and when your CPO ends.
If I worried about door dings I know I'd have a hundred of them because I drive this car everywhere and park anywhere I want and I don't have a ding anywhere. It's the Murphy's Law thing. Ha ha.
If you're concerned about driving it and breaking it, take a look at this.
06-07-2019, 08:11 AM
#37
Burning Brakes
The compelling part to me is that you’re incentivized to drive a .1 while this fantastic warranty exists. There’s zero reward for keeping it bubblewrapped in the garage.
Porsche is actually daring you to do your damnedest to blow up the motor over the next 5~ years. It’s an insane value prop.
It’s almost a joke how much car it is for the money. To score these things in the 115-125 range is laughable for how awesome they are.
Porsche is actually daring you to do your damnedest to blow up the motor over the next 5~ years. It’s an insane value prop.
It’s almost a joke how much car it is for the money. To score these things in the 115-125 range is laughable for how awesome they are.
06-07-2019, 01:42 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by itrsteve
The compelling part to me is that you’re incentivized to drive a .1 while this fantastic warranty exists. There’s zero reward for keeping it bubblewrapped in the garage.
Porsche is actually daring you to do your damnedest to blow up the motor over the next 5~ years. It’s an insane value prop.
It’s almost a joke how much car it is for the money. To score these things in the 115-125 range is laughable for how awesome they are.
Porsche is actually daring you to do your damnedest to blow up the motor over the next 5~ years. It’s an insane value prop.
It’s almost a joke how much car it is for the money. To score these things in the 115-125 range is laughable for how awesome they are.
06-07-2019, 05:49 PM
#39
What about a set budget. if the difference in cost is a concern, and it should be as most of us are not rich, put a budget on the investment. If 120k is it, make that best purchase on what you want to spend. If the budget is not the major factor, buy a .2, get the tranny you want, and enjoy!
06-08-2019, 08:40 AM
#40
If it lasts, the .1 tranny is more appealing (at least to me). Because the engine yells better, powercurve is more like a race engine, the pdk rattles more and the gears kick in harder. If it lasts... 
06-09-2019, 04:47 PM
#41
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Yes,
I can vouch for the difference in personality between the sounds and personality of the .1 PDK-S and the .2 PDK-S. I'm probably in the minority like you that prefers the ruckus that the .1 box makes.
FWIW mine did fail at around 35k miles. I take that back. The box didn't fail but the seals between the atf oil and gear oil fails in some and mixes together causing a slip. The Germans call it a
mixer". So the mechanicals did not fail. Just a physical connectivity issue with the seals.
The .2 box that was replaced in my car is much quieter and the ratios are different. It revs faster than the .1 box which is a contributor to the .2 cars overall speed (including the 4.0) of course and makes them a tad faster overall.
06-09-2019, 07:39 PM
#42
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I’m pretty sure that they did not change the ratios. If it revs faster, that’s due to additional power and torque that can pull the gears better.
06-10-2019, 02:22 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I’m pretty sure that they did not change the ratios. If it revs faster, that’s due to additional power and torque that can pull the gears better.
I'm sure I'm in a minority to have a .1 F engine 2015 with a .2 PDK.
Just the PDK failed. Engine has 46k miles now. Porsche replaced the PDK out with a new box complete. They don't open them, they just send them back to Germany.
I actually joked with the service writer that I liked the loud, obnoxious racket the .1 box makes and he said sorry. They only send us .2 PDK's now for replacement it's a different part number and improved box. They had my car an additional 2 days because they had to load the programming.
It's not as loud and clunky as the .1 boxes but the .2 is an improved PDK-S and I'm happy to have it.