Track Safety - Harness Setup
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I couldn't find a dedicated thread....I did search the first 3 pages of results.
I'm looking to get my GT3 set up for track to make it as safe as it can be from a restraint perspective. Bit confused with info out there and my lack of knowledge on this topic.
I'm probably going with a CMS bar and now need to match a harness, I want to go with Schroth.
a) Schroth Profi II 6 point seems to be recommended for GT3. It was discontinued last year. Replacement is Flexi 2x2.
b) Do I need a special sub belt mount bracket?
c) Can I use the brackets included with Flex 2x2 to bolt to factory mounting points in a 991.2 GT3 w/LWB? Driver and Passenger.
Thanks!
I'm looking to get my GT3 set up for track to make it as safe as it can be from a restraint perspective. Bit confused with info out there and my lack of knowledge on this topic.
I'm probably going with a CMS bar and now need to match a harness, I want to go with Schroth.
a) Schroth Profi II 6 point seems to be recommended for GT3. It was discontinued last year. Replacement is Flexi 2x2.
b) Do I need a special sub belt mount bracket?
c) Can I use the brackets included with Flex 2x2 to bolt to factory mounting points in a 991.2 GT3 w/LWB? Driver and Passenger.
Thanks!
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I regretted getting the 6 point on my prior track toy. Laying the buckle and lap belts low on the hip, the crotch sub-belts and metal clips dig into my groins. I'm shopping for 5 points for my current car,
As I understand it, you have to get a separate sub belt mount.
You do know the passenger bucket seat needs to have a hole made for the sub belt, right? Only the drivers seat has a sub belt hole in the 991.2 GT3
As I understand it, you have to get a separate sub belt mount.
You do know the passenger bucket seat needs to have a hole made for the sub belt, right? Only the drivers seat has a sub belt hole in the 991.2 GT3
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I regretted getting the 6 point on my prior track toy. Laying the buckle and lap belts low on the hip, the crotch sub-belts and metal clips dig into my groins. I'm shopping for 5 points for my current car,
As I understand it, you have to get a separate sub belt mount.
You do know the passenger bucket seat needs to have a hole made for the sub belt, right? Only the drivers seat has a sub belt hole in the 991.2 GT3
As I understand it, you have to get a separate sub belt mount.
You do know the passenger bucket seat needs to have a hole made for the sub belt, right? Only the drivers seat has a sub belt hole in the 991.2 GT3
What 5 point models are you looking at?
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There are so many Porsche specific belts to choose from. Check out these listings
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...e-harnessbelts
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...e-harnessbelts
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Few things to keep in mind:
- If you plan on running DE events with PCA and ever want to have an instructor riding shotgun, you'll need the same safety setup for both driver and passenger--can't run a 6-point harness for driver and a 4-point for passenger.
- If you haven't done this before, have a reputable race shop do the installation. There are lots of details that are very important (some not so obvious) during the install to make the system work correctly and safely.
- When the Schroth belts are installed, make sure that they are placed correctly. There is actually a left and right shoulder belt for each set. I've seen pictures on rennlist of rollbar and Schroth harness setups done by well-known shops that have the left and right-side shoulder belts reversed. Look on the Schroth website for pictures of the correct orientation. The line under the Schroth name should be toward the center, not the outside. This matters because the metal buckle tabs at the end of each belt are angled as they fit into the center camlock. If the shoulder belts are reversed, the angles will be incorrect as they enter the camlock.
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Why don't people go with the 4 point if you have factory LWB? Schroth has a belt for those exact carbon seats. Albeit it's not competition FIA approved. But for those who aren't racing, does that make a difference.
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There are so many Porsche specific belts to choose from. Check out these listings
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...e-harnessbelts
https://www.schrothracing.com/produc...e-harnessbelts
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Few things to keep in mind:
- If you plan on running DE events with PCA and ever want to have an instructor riding shotgun, you'll need the same safety setup for both driver and passenger--can't run a 6-point harness for driver and a 4-point for passenger.
- If you haven't done this before, have a reputable race shop do the installation. There are lots of details that are very important (some not so obvious) during the install to make the system work correctly and safely.
- When the Schroth belts are installed, make sure that they are placed correctly. There is actually a left and right shoulder belt for each set. I've seen pictures on rennlist of rollbar and Schroth harness setups done by well-known shops that have the left and right-side shoulder belts reversed. Look on the Schroth website for pictures of the correct orientation. The line under the Schroth name should be toward the center, not the outside. This matters because the metal buckle tabs at the end of each belt are angled as they fit into the center camlock. If the shoulder belts are reversed, the angles will be incorrect as they enter the camlock.
Your first point is coming into effect for PCA UCR. I didn't know it was right down to exactly the same equipment, where 4 and 6 makes a difference. Guess it makes sense though.
Haven't done it before. I took a look at the manual and for sure it's all critical. Ideally I'd have an experienced shop do it but important to understand and be able to check it on your own too.
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I am in the same boat... and, presumably, this 4 point would work with the seat and the HANS?
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I have the single piece LWBS and was also looking at these 4 point harnesses. I will not be racing - only doing DE... So I am only looking for a setup that works with a HANS device. (I would do the same setup for both seats.)
I am in the same boat... and, presumably, this 4 point would work with the seat and the HANS?
Competition Motorsports is doing 15%, so would be great to take advantage of that.