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Old 11-02-2018, 02:56 PM
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So with the nurburgring record going back to porsche in the "GT2rs MR", MR being for manthey racing are we watching the birth of a new badge like AMG, ///M, "RS", "SV", "LT"? All the other manufacturers have that extra badge, and given that porsche owns 51% of manthey I think in a few years you to can purchase your own Macan S MR.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...car-16359.html
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I think that is the way.
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Not so fast, Allegedly all MR did was aero (dive planes and a bigger wing) and 'Ring specific track setup...oh and a race seat. Not exactly "badge" worthy!! What good is a Nurburgring specific track setup at Spa or Watkins Glen or VIR... am I missing something?
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Thats how all these performance divisions start. They make hardcore cars and slowly gets more and more diluted such as the current AMG and M car line ups.

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I think this car also has KW V3 dampers that Manthey has done a special tune to, and of course Michelin Cup 2 Rs.

They have a lot of other great stuff like the extra water tank, wheels, roll bars etc.
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Weissach Package is the “extra badge”
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991 GT2 RS WP MR.... dafuq??
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Porsche is already selling factory race cars with the MR badge. Don't see why they couldn't start applying it to street cars.
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The Manthey crew have done a great job with the racing dept and they are obviously well suited to the ring. But these set ups are real specific. I have a feeling the Ring setup for the 2rs is very well suited and prob a huge benefit but I would be surprised if a MR 3RS would make that big of a difference but I've been wrong a lot lately!
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Wonder how much time MR could shave of the 3RS time? Another 6 seconds?

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Originally Posted by porsche518
So with the nurburgring record going back to porsche in the "GT2rs MR", MR being for manthey racing are we watching the birth of a new badge like AMG, ///M, "RS", "SV", "LT"? All the other manufacturers have that extra badge, and given that porsche owns 51% of manthey I think in a few years you to can purchase your own Macan S MR.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...car-16359.html
No. We might see an rsr, but not an MR. It's on their newsroom because they are owned by Porsche (that is an investor for years, like they are on Rimac and many others).

As for setup, the brilliance of a nurburgring setup is that it works great everywhere, street, ****ty tracks, fast tracks, slow tracks and it maintains goo street ability as the fastest setup can't too stiff or run an extreme alignment setup.
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Originally Posted by race7117
The Manthey crew have done a great job with the racing dept and they are obviously well suited to the ring. But these set ups are real specific. I have a feeling the Ring setup for the 2rs is very well suited and prob a huge benefit but I would be surprised if a MR 3RS would make that big of a difference but I've been wrong a lot lately!
If it did in the 2rs, expect similar deltas on the gt3 rs. Raeder brothers always find a freaking way to find a better chassis regardless of how good it is already.
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No, not w Porsche. It is a sports car brand and needs no brand "help" to build its credibility and has a closet full of historical badges to attach to cars for its hyper segmentation. AMG provided performance cred for MB, PAG doesn't need MR for that. SV and the rest cited are merely names of historical variants that had substance that are being abused / diluted today. The list is long

Audi S and soon RS
MB AMG and soon Black Series
BMW M and soon GTS, CSL, CRT, whatever
Porsche GTx, RS, R, T, Speedster, and so on
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In 2017 Porsche sold 55k cars, of that 911s, cayman/boxsters were about 14k in sales. About 16% of total sales, certainly a significant portion of their business but pales in comparison to the sedans and SUVs. These badge packages are very profitable. And Porsche is here to make profit.
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Originally Posted by Akunob
Not so fast, Allegedly all MR did was aero (dive planes and a bigger wing) and 'Ring specific track setup...oh and a race seat. Not exactly "badge" worthy!! What good is a Nurburgring specific track setup at Spa or Watkins Glen or VIR... am I missing something?
Look no further than AMG and M. GTR right down to appearance packages and it sells!


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