At $500k, a new gt2rs or a 2011 gt3rs 4.0?
08-25-2018 | 09:40 AM
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So assuming you have to pay an ADM on a new 2018 GT2RS and the cost of a 997 GT3rs 4.0, what do you buy and why? Both are around $500k (unless your GT2rs is PTS, CXx, or WP) and will be very low production numbers and both are going to and already are very desirable. Thoughts please.
08-25-2018 | 09:46 AM
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Some great justifications. In looking at value alone I feel these two cars will maintain consistent values in perpetuity as all gt2’s gt2rs have. The limited versions of these cars (pts, Cxx, wp) will always be in higher demand and sell quicker at a premium. I guess what I was asking is do people prefer the extra few hundred HP and overall capabilities of the gt2rs lend to a more fun driving experience than that of a 997 4.0? Or is it just the opposite? I believe that this version of the gt2rs will be the last of the non electric supplemented versions, making it the most capable gas 911 forever. I personally have a commission for a gt2rs but would love to purchase a 4.0 in the near future. Thanks for all of your feedback and I welcome more opinions!
08-25-2018 | 10:29 AM
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I don’t share your opinion that the current GT2RS will hold value as well as the 2011 did. The 2011 was actually limited product, and has the number plate to prove it. The 2018 is open production, and I believe there are well over 1,500 that have been confirmed to have been produced. They’re making so many of them they’ve had to stop offering the mag wheels and WP on the GT3RS because they can’t make those parts fast enough. I don’t think it will depreciate like a stone, but because of human physiology, anything with a limited run number plate is going to intrinsically be valued over something without one. Combine this with the pure statistics of “there are more of them so they’ll come up for sale more frequently, meaning there will actually be market data to guide pricing” and you have a recipe for lower values. Humans are really stupid animals and ascribe value to odd things.
On the 2RS vs. 4.0 question: I’ve driven neither, so I cannot give a take based on empirical data. But, the cars offer completely different experiences. They’re really only comproble in price. As such, I’d by the one that offered the experience most different from whatever was currently in my stable, if I wasn’t concerned about the value side of the debate. The GT2RS, thanks to the goodness of the 991.2 platform, is something you legitimately could drive every day, comfortably. The 4.0 offers the pinnacle of a more analog experience that is difficult to find in modern cars.
Ultimately, for the money as others have said I’d probably buy several other cars combined for the same money, as that would let me sample the most variant driving experiences where as I have to just pick one in this selection. If you forced me to pick, id take the 2RS if it was my only car (as my GT3 currently is), and the 4.0 if it wasn’t.
On the 2RS vs. 4.0 question: I’ve driven neither, so I cannot give a take based on empirical data. But, the cars offer completely different experiences. They’re really only comproble in price. As such, I’d by the one that offered the experience most different from whatever was currently in my stable, if I wasn’t concerned about the value side of the debate. The GT2RS, thanks to the goodness of the 991.2 platform, is something you legitimately could drive every day, comfortably. The 4.0 offers the pinnacle of a more analog experience that is difficult to find in modern cars.
Ultimately, for the money as others have said I’d probably buy several other cars combined for the same money, as that would let me sample the most variant driving experiences where as I have to just pick one in this selection. If you forced me to pick, id take the 2RS if it was my only car (as my GT3 currently is), and the 4.0 if it wasn’t.
08-25-2018 | 10:46 AM
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I agree on the 991 GT2RS. Full warranty and it is the fastest most powerful Porsche made to date. Plus, next iteration is next six years. 
Of course as seen lately Porsche with limited and numbered tags will for sure stay above MSRP like the 997 4.0 RS.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Of course as seen lately Porsche with limited and numbered tags will for sure stay above MSRP like the 997 4.0 RS.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
08-25-2018 | 11:32 AM
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There is no doubt that a number plate would have helped, however a one year only (2018) production run will produce low US production numbers. My understanding is there will be similar numbers produced as the 4.0. The reason that the WP parts are arriving late and are being cancelled is the high number of people ordering the package. This wasn’t a very limited number offering (until they ran out) on the WP builds and 90+% of people chose the WP on their builds. The real limiting allocations were for PTS AND CXX, or even moreso the combination of two or all three. The fact that there is a 6 year gap on the most highly capable 911 built to date will cause values to rise in the short term then probably level off at a 1.5 - 2x msrp premium for the long term. It’s a badass car for sure!
08-25-2018 | 12:59 PM
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I'm hearing from friends who are in the business of selling collectible Porsches that the market in both the USA
and Europe is rapidly cooling. A 997 4.0 that would have sold close to $500K several years ago just sold for $380K
and all of the high-priced Air-cooled models have similarly lost 20% in market value over the last 2 years.
As a Driver and not a "Collector" I would take the 991 GT2RS over the 997 GT3RS 4.0 in a heartbeat.
But after 10-20 years, I would guess the 4.0 Limited Edition Market Value would exceed the unlimited 991 GT2RS Value.
and Europe is rapidly cooling. A 997 4.0 that would have sold close to $500K several years ago just sold for $380K
and all of the high-priced Air-cooled models have similarly lost 20% in market value over the last 2 years.
As a Driver and not a "Collector" I would take the 991 GT2RS over the 997 GT3RS 4.0 in a heartbeat.
But after 10-20 years, I would guess the 4.0 Limited Edition Market Value would exceed the unlimited 991 GT2RS Value.
08-25-2018 | 01:20 PM
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I'm hearing from friends who are in the business of selling collectible Porsches that the market in both the USA
and Europe is rapidly cooling. A 997 4.0 that would have sold close to $500K several years ago just sold for $380K
and all of the high-priced Air-cooled models have similarly lost 20% in market value over the last 2 years.
As a Driver and not a "Collector" I would take the 991 GT2RS over the 997 GT3RS 4.0 in a heartbeat.
But after 10-20 years, I would guess the 4.0 Limited Edition Market Value would exceed the unlimited 991 GT2RS Value.
and Europe is rapidly cooling. A 997 4.0 that would have sold close to $500K several years ago just sold for $380K
and all of the high-priced Air-cooled models have similarly lost 20% in market value over the last 2 years.
As a Driver and not a "Collector" I would take the 991 GT2RS over the 997 GT3RS 4.0 in a heartbeat.
But after 10-20 years, I would guess the 4.0 Limited Edition Market Value would exceed the unlimited 991 GT2RS Value.