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The biggest issues with CXX and PTS at the moment are coordination and expectations management across the different parties:.
While I agree with some of your points, the vast majority of misunderstanding among all parties could be resolved with communication. For example, a communication such as "We are overwhelmed with PTS demand and requests and even if we tripled the price to the consumer, we don't have the capacity, nor do we want to, continue offering this option." Then we can bitch and moan and say PAG didn't give us our well deserved lolly, but at least we know why we are bitching and moaning.
Originally Posted by evilfij
The fact that they remove perfectly good parts from built cars for stupid stuff like dial colors and seat belts and dash trim when those could be added on the line is evidence of the craziness of Porsche build process.
This almost sounds like a circular logic way of charging the draconian and seemingly punitive multiple of the CXX option.
My car has been stuck at custom tailoring since 07/05. Was supposed to complete on 07/13. Now I don’t know if I’ll make the cut before factory shutdown on 08/06
The fact that they remove perfectly good parts from built cars for stupid stuff like dial colors and seat belts and dash trim when those could be added on the line is evidence of the craziness of Porsche build process.
Yep - it's a strange and wasteful process, and if the line standardization is intended to drive higher quality I'd argue it doesn't. The quote I received for a mildly customized steering wheel was shocking for that very reason.
While I agree with some of your points, the vast majority of misunderstanding among all parties could be resolved with communication. For example, a communication such as "We are overwhelmed with PTS demand and requests and even if we tripled the price to the consumer, we don't have the capacity, nor do we want to, continue offering this option." Then we can bitch and moan and say PAG didn't give us our well deserved lolly, but at least we know why we are bitching and moaning.
Yep, I see that as part of the coordination. PCNA will admit it if asked, but seemingly don't proactively message it to dealers or customers.
The root cause of that is also part of the expectations management piece... PAG and PCNA agreed that they could meet US PTS demand. However the demand from the customer (PCNA) was assessed, there was ultimately a mismatched expectation between PAG and PCNA on demand vs. capacity. Raising prices also didn't solve the demand part of that equation as expected.
My car has been stuck at custom tailoring since 07/05. Was supposed to complete on 07/13. Now I don’t know if I’ll make the cut before factory shutdown on 08/06
Mine was stuck for two months. Not that it would have solved anything, but I'd simply have liked to know approximately how long I'd have to wait, and why...
Mine was stuck for two months. Not that it would have solved anything, but I'd simply have liked to know approximately how long I'd have to wait, and why...
Thats what I requested to know today. But I’m now mentally preparing for the car to arrive October/November, instead of August.
We have two PTS cars but neither is a GT car....did it because we wanted something different and neither car will be worth any more because of them being PTS. My wife's car might even be worth less! My wife has a Ruby Star Boxster and I have a Sport Classic Grey Macan....my GT3 is Lava Orange. I'd have loved a PTS GT3 but not available in the UK.
We have two PTS cars but neither is a GT car....did it because we wanted something different and neither car will be worth any more because of them being PTS. My wife's car might even be worth less! My wife has a Ruby Star Boxster and I have a Sport Classic Grey Macan....my GT3 is Lava Orange. I'd have loved a PTS GT3 but not available in the UK.
A rubystar boxster sounds great! You should post pictures of the family (of cars).
The process is lousy at best
it took Porsche 2 months to deny my request for PTS ,
you would think that they have a better idea of their capabilities, and able to accept or deny requests within couple of days
you would think that they have a better idea of their capabilities, and able to accept or deny requests within couple of days
I'm sure the delay is due to overly complex logistics. Probably too difficult to streamline due to not being mission critical. With so much demand with their products, no need to make "lesser" improvements.
Was lucky enough to order my gt4 in PTS. Tried to get PTS for my gt3rs order and was denied...bummer but not a huge deal as I am lucky enough to get the car at msrp.
A rubystar boxster sounds great! You should post pictures of the family (of cars).
Here you go. Rubystar is a great looking colour...varies so much depending on the light. Gets a lot of positive comments, my wife loves it most importantly! Sport Classic Grey changes a lot too depending on the light.
07-30-2018, 02:32 PM
