R35driver

I prefer my weekend ride to be NA

the T is nice but the powertrain is too similar to my M3 daily to justify it as a weekend ride. it too is a 3.0 liter twin turbo pushing out 500hp now thanks to a tune on it. The M3 has 4 doors, much cheaper, manual, and to me variety in the garage is key. FR, MR, and RR layouts all have their positives and negatives. sometimes less traction and being scared is more fun than all out grip.

Burren

Anyone else hoping that Porsche takes the 4.0 detuned motor from the new GT4 and puts it into a "stripper" 911 to make the new T? I think that would be a hoot. Little lighter, little more raw, NA zing, manual trans.

Jeahbladejeah

Hoping, yes. Holding my breath, no way.

ThEnder

I'm fairly sure a number of Porsche executives have confirmed that there will be no naturally aspirated engines in the Carreras going forward. I agree it would be nice though.

smiles11

If they do I’m in big trouble lol

Only way this would happen is if Porsche was desperate for 911 sales...

Drifting

I think you'll have to look to the Cayman GTS 4.0 for that, as there will not be a regular production NA 992 911 model other than the GT cars so GT3, GT3T, GT3RS, Speedster

Personally, I'm thinking of getting a Boxster GTS 4.0 or a Spyder to compliment my 991.2 GT3.

bli8

After owning both a T and a Touring at the same time for many months, I can say from personal experience that the T is just as fast (I have a tune) and does quite well on track. What's lacking on the T is the steering feel as its steering is heavy and has a lot less feel. The Touring also has No Lift Shift which unless you experience it, you won't know how good it is. I also have a '19 Corvette Z06 and the No Lift Shift implementation on it is so crude, it's a feature I don't use vs NLS on the Touring is able to make the car a lot more exciting to drive. The T sits too high and its suspension isn't easily adjustable like in the Touring which can easily be lowered. So the Touring end up looking a lot better. I got the T for the wife and for family outings that don't need a larger car, but to me, there's no comparison between the T and the Touring.

smiles11

Most logical response I've read on this thread. Well said.

911-TOUR

I spent 2 hours in my T today with my son (who begged me for a ride) - I still think this is the best road 911 Porsche has built in 20+ years. It's not a GT3/GT3T, no. It's a great 911 that adheres to the design philosophy from the 60s/70s. My love for Porsche started tooling around the mountains in the back seat/shelf of my father's '73.5 T - I *love* that I can give my kids the same experience 40 years later.

Amazing world we live in.

cheers!

evilfij

Just like they said no more manuals in GT3 when 991.1 came out.

My guess will be, if they do put the 4.0 in a 911, it will be a GTS. Right now 992 are selling very well so no need, but they went back to 6NA in boxster/cayman when 718 four turbo sales tanked.

ipse dixit

I actually prefer the 9A2 Evo over the 9A1 powerplant.

It's just more useable on a daily basis, and for those that whine about turbo lag, they do it simply because they know that the 9A2 Evo is FI, not because there's actual lag. It's like a Pavlovian response.

Tpup

I do to. I came out of a 991.1 and the 991.2 is just better in every way imo. I have a 1985 Turbo Esprit, that has lag. The lag on the 991.2 is only noticeable when I look for it (I’m always in Sport or Sport+). Same with the sucking noise; I never noticed until I read people complaining and then I listened for it (I also always have the PSE on). Love the car...

Drifting

You are both correct in that modern porsche turbo carreras have so much less lag compared to stereotypical turbo lag like the Turbo esprit that was mentioned.

However you are both wrong in that the 991.2 and 992.1 carrera and Turbo model do still have quite noticeable lag.....at least to a higher level driver, one that is used to be able to modulate the throttle in any situation, whether that be on track, canyon carving, around town, shooting the gap in highway traffic, etc. I know that statement sounds arrogant, but not any more so than stating that its just "a pavlovian response"!

I hear the strongest defense of the lack of turbo lag in modern porches, from the drivers who don't really know how to drive them to the limit in any situation, but use them mainly for a DD, C+C car, etc.