Protective Film + Ceramic Pro (Look & Experience)
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Protective Film + Ceramic Pro (Look & Experience)
Hi All,
Scheduled to have clear bra installed on all front panels + hood (not a-pillars, doors, roof, back panels, etc).....and ceramic pro on all body panels, lamps, glass and wheels.
Has anyone had experience doing this? I understand the film may lose some luster after a few years (im ok with that, ill just redo), and that the ceramic coating will increase its lifespan.
That said, I'm curious/concerned about two things:
1. Even though the film is being tucked under all panels front panels/hood, and aging of the film aside, will you be able to see a difference in finish between the film protected and non-film protected parts of the car? Assume there are no points where the film ends on a visible part of a body panel.
2. I've read that it's advised to apply the ceramic coating *after* installing the protective film - but as i've never done these two together - just want to be sure im not missing anything.
Any guidance/advice from people with experience?
Appreciate the help.
Scheduled to have clear bra installed on all front panels + hood (not a-pillars, doors, roof, back panels, etc).....and ceramic pro on all body panels, lamps, glass and wheels.
Has anyone had experience doing this? I understand the film may lose some luster after a few years (im ok with that, ill just redo), and that the ceramic coating will increase its lifespan.
That said, I'm curious/concerned about two things:
1. Even though the film is being tucked under all panels front panels/hood, and aging of the film aside, will you be able to see a difference in finish between the film protected and non-film protected parts of the car? Assume there are no points where the film ends on a visible part of a body panel.
2. I've read that it's advised to apply the ceramic coating *after* installing the protective film - but as i've never done these two together - just want to be sure im not missing anything.
Any guidance/advice from people with experience?
Appreciate the help.
#2
I had my 991.2 GT silver GTS wrapped with xpel and two coats of cquartz finest reserve. I wrapped everything except the door and rear bumper. No way tell which parts were wrapped and which weren't. Also definitely do ceramic coating on top of the wrap. It makes no sense to apply the coating under the wrap.
This was my first experience with paint protection film and I was very happy. Happier than I would have expected. It gives you some comfort when you are even washing the car that you really won't be introducing swirls into the paint. The absolute most important thing is finding a good installer. Look at their work if you can. It makes all the difference. It's worth paying double to make sure the job is done by someone who really knows what they are doing.
You might consider doing a full wrap. I'm planning to do that on my .2 GT3. I get that it is more expensive but I think the peace of mind is worth it. Especially that big back fender piece. Let me know if you have other questions.
This was my first experience with paint protection film and I was very happy. Happier than I would have expected. It gives you some comfort when you are even washing the car that you really won't be introducing swirls into the paint. The absolute most important thing is finding a good installer. Look at their work if you can. It makes all the difference. It's worth paying double to make sure the job is done by someone who really knows what they are doing.
You might consider doing a full wrap. I'm planning to do that on my .2 GT3. I get that it is more expensive but I think the peace of mind is worth it. Especially that big back fender piece. Let me know if you have other questions.
#4
Agree with most folks, put ceramic coating on top of the PPF. That said, when doing PPF on my 991.2 TTS, the installer was nervous about the issues with PPF delaminating the head lights when removed, so he put down two coats of ceramic coating before applying the PPF on the head lamps. The thought being that the ceramic coating would be a barrier between the head lamp and the PPF adhesive.
He he did have to redo a head lamp the next day and he no issue with the PPF delaminating the top
layer of the head lamp, but I haven’t put this to a long term test.
Anyway, food for thought.
He he did have to redo a head lamp the next day and he no issue with the PPF delaminating the top
layer of the head lamp, but I haven’t put this to a long term test.
Anyway, food for thought.
#6
can you elaborate? how visible?
certainly still worth it, and more concerned about being able to tell a panel is wrapped vs not from a safe distance...but curious how blatant exposed edges are.
#7
If you wash your car yourself you see them easily but to most people they are basically invisible. A good installer would make it seamless imo
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all film gets old
dirt gets on the edge, even if you tucked them
they do not last forever, if u drive your car, film are to be replaced periodically
i think there's major confusion on nano coating.
it sheds water,
makes washing faster
but it's like a "clear coat" on paint. you CAN SCRATCH IT. you CAN SWIRL IT.
and it not easy to fix the scratch on nano coatings. you basically have to polish it off and re-do.
i coat my DD. bc i need it clean fast and some swirls dont bother me on dd
on my GT cars, no coating, always old school wax. yes it takes a long time to do it. but i dont see many cars with the wet look i have.
nano coat (ceramic pro, PPE, whatever fancy name ...) is good stuff, but it doesn't do magic.. dont let your detailer smoke you. buy it for the right reason
dirt gets on the edge, even if you tucked them
they do not last forever, if u drive your car, film are to be replaced periodically
i think there's major confusion on nano coating.
it sheds water,
makes washing faster
but it's like a "clear coat" on paint. you CAN SCRATCH IT. you CAN SWIRL IT.
and it not easy to fix the scratch on nano coatings. you basically have to polish it off and re-do.
i coat my DD. bc i need it clean fast and some swirls dont bother me on dd
on my GT cars, no coating, always old school wax. yes it takes a long time to do it. but i dont see many cars with the wet look i have.
nano coat (ceramic pro, PPE, whatever fancy name ...) is good stuff, but it doesn't do magic.. dont let your detailer smoke you. buy it for the right reason
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Mooty’s post is accurate. Coating is for chemical protection and maintainenance ease. You can replicate the effects of a professional ceramic coat if you were willing to apply paint sealant to your car every few weeks.
PPF is for physical protection. Unfortunately the 911 PPF templates are one of the worse ones I’ve seen...a lot of explosed edges and even a nasty join on the rear of you wrap there. It’s far more noticeable on lighter colors as the edges build up dirt.
PPF is for physical protection. Unfortunately the 911 PPF templates are one of the worse ones I’ve seen...a lot of explosed edges and even a nasty join on the rear of you wrap there. It’s far more noticeable on lighter colors as the edges build up dirt.
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Originally Posted by mooty
all film gets old
dirt gets on the edge, even if you tucked them
they do not last forever, if u drive your car, film are to be replaced periodically
i think there's major confusion on nano coating.
it sheds water,
makes washing faster
but it's like a "clear coat" on paint. you CAN SCRATCH IT. you CAN SWIRL IT.
and it not easy to fix the scratch on nano coatings. you basically have to polish it off and re-do.
i coat my DD. bc i need it clean fast and some swirls dont bother me on dd
on my GT cars, no coating, always old school wax. yes it takes a long time to do it. but i dont see many cars with the wet look i have.
nano coat (ceramic pro, PPE, whatever fancy name ...) is good stuff, but it doesn't do magic.. dont let your detailer smoke you. buy it for the right reason
dirt gets on the edge, even if you tucked them
they do not last forever, if u drive your car, film are to be replaced periodically
i think there's major confusion on nano coating.
it sheds water,
makes washing faster
but it's like a "clear coat" on paint. you CAN SCRATCH IT. you CAN SWIRL IT.
and it not easy to fix the scratch on nano coatings. you basically have to polish it off and re-do.
i coat my DD. bc i need it clean fast and some swirls dont bother me on dd
on my GT cars, no coating, always old school wax. yes it takes a long time to do it. but i dont see many cars with the wet look i have.
nano coat (ceramic pro, PPE, whatever fancy name ...) is good stuff, but it doesn't do magic.. dont let your detailer smoke you. buy it for the right reason