mooty

C.J. Ichiban

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DerStig

2006m5

C.J. Ichiban

Why anyone would want a recession is beyond me. Plug pulling on the sink drains everyone the same way a rising tide lifts all boats.

People/Buyers can vote with their wallets to support the businesses and business practices they like the most.

That being said- the best way to get cars is to get in early and communicate consistently. Lots of the top clients are constantly in touch with the top employees at a store and they tend to hear about stuff earliest, get the invites etc.

porscheflat6

goin2drt

Porschmich

I have not heard of any for 25k over, still to much in my mind. All the prices I have seen has been over 50k. So if you find one at 25k over and don't want it let this group know I am sure someone here would be interested in that price if you do not want it.

carz80am

What's fair is ZERO over MSRP. What people are paying and what market is dictating is different...

R.Deacon

CJ THANKS TOTAL WITH Thanks for such great council .

FORENN

The two lowest I've been told of are $25K (reported publicly on RL) and $30K. I believe both are now gone. They are out there at under 50k if you put a little work in. I agree with those who said $50K is the typical asking price. I have no problem with ADM. If that's what the market is, that's what it is. But I'll be patient and wait for one at sticker. If I don't get it, such is life, and I will add it to my relatively short list of first world annoyances. My PTS GT3 MT will be here soon enough, which I imagine will be pretty good. And I remember this same hype for the 991.1 RS ... and then PAG made a whopping 6000 of them. So I guess we'll see. Good luck to everyone. And to OP, if you are comfortable with 50K ADM, go for it. Don't let anyone tell you how to feel or spend your money for you.

FORENN

Agree. Hoping for a recession is senseless. I remember another thread where an RLer expressed this recession wish. I don't get it. Why, so you'll have a better chance of landing an RS at sticker? Think about how nuts that is.

soulsea

A paraphrased old Greek expression for spiteful:

"If I can't push you over the cliff, I will pull you over."

redmonkey928

In ideal world that is true, in my experience touching base every so often when you have a deposit or an order in process it seems the SA/dealers almost go against building a relationship. Need to dangle car keys to get a reaction:

2016:
Years back, bought a preowned 991.1 GT3 when those were the GT3 to have and traded a GT4 in, wanted to leave a deposit for .2 GT3 or .1 RS - was told we would be in touch with details, and when I finally got an email months later that said being 2.5hrs (geographically) from the dealer is outside their radius, and they won't be able to assist as those cars stay inside a 50 miles radius because they only get a few and won't send them outside that radius.

Left a deposit on .2RS end of 16' for a local dealer, they "forgot" about that apparently and gave the allocation elsewhere, had kept in touch and tried ordering Macan. Have tried to stay in touch with this relationship as they are a local dealer, but since have seen nothing but hot air being blown around.

2017:
Tried to buy another 997.2 RS and was adding it as a second Porsche 'summer/track car' (was also given written evidence of getting the #1 spot on the list for .2 GT3's) - offered to finance with dealer and they got approval for everything and a few things didn't connect for me with the numbers/DME and passed - crickets from that dealer when I leave VM's to the SM who took over the deal (this was a premier dealer and very large volume who is well-known).

Have a .2 GT3 coming from a dealer I traded a GT car to for a new Macan GTS, have had to pull teeth to get that allocation as I was told it was mine in Nov. 17' - took until March 18' to get a commission number. And have offered to buy another SUV in process which didn't seem to help relationship.

So, while the sentiment of the relationship is great and all - experience has been nothing but the opposite in all of these deals. If Porsche didn't make such a good product, I would've been done with this long ago.

goin2drt

I might mess this up but relationships be damned this is how it works. You pick the dealer and somewhere on this spectrum they start/stop selling at MSRP. All are at MSRP with 1 but after that it is a crap shoot.

1. Super 918 VIP
1 (a) 918 VIP
2. Non 918 VIPs, that are VIPs. Those that are connected with Porsche in some way. I could name a few but these are the ones that don't own a 918 but are treated as if they did.
3. Whales- those that buy at least 10+ cars from dealer. 10 could be the wrong number, could be higher.
4. Friends, relatives, etc
5. Business relationships such as the GM's stock broker, lender etc etc
5. Dudes with industry connections. These would be your you-tubers, maybe a Michelin rep etc
6. Customer that has bought less than 10 cars but still uses them for service.
7. Final bucket is for the GM and SM to talk about a potential gift, new customer etc (that guy with the relationship that is not one of the above)
991. The guy that is out of the area (state) that can't bring them in any service business or no GT business.

Now the only customer that I didn't include because it could go anywhere from 2 to 990. That guy that walks in with money falling out of his pocket and if the "market rate" is say $25K over he will offer $50K just because he needs to be the first at C&C to impress his 20 yr younger wife/girlfriend(s)

Let's face it Porsche does not release enough of these cars to hit all the above so that guy that just wants a GT car at MSRP to spec and drive and not flip for profit or bubble wrap for later will have to pay whatever the going rate is. You can have all the relationships you want but it is a business and if the dealer doesn't think you are future $'s, forget about it. If that price is over MSRP and you are against that then, well you watch from the sidelines or buy someone other spec when the latest and greatest new toy comes out and the commotion settles.

OP if you got an allocation for $50K and you are ok with that - GO FOR IT!!!!! Or else you will continue to watch prices fall over the next months just like the .1 did but the problem at that lower ADM you may not be given that allocation.