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Old 03-02-2018 | 04:41 PM
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I've posted this before, but this should dispel any doubts about the GT3 Touring being identical (other then some trim) to the winged version.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...ler-14133.html
Old 03-02-2018 | 04:47 PM
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"The powertrain and chassis are identical on all 911 GT3 vehicles with manual transmission, including the variant with Touring Package."
Old 03-03-2018 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stout
"It's an appearance package."
—Porsche engineer.

I drove the Touring on snow tires, so there's that. But, accounting for that, it sure drove like the GT3 6MT I drove last summer in/around Weissach. If there are experiential differences from behind the wheel, I suspect they are so small that I'd need to drive both cars on the same day and roads to sort them. I also suspect they'd come down to spec, tires, and maybe the lack of a rear wing alters the acoustics reflected back—though said acoustic alterations would have to translate through glass if the windows are up.

We humans are funny beasts, however. Porschephiles, even funnier. I constantly check myself when I "perceive" a difference while road testing.
Interesting suggestion about the wing altering the acoustics.

Chris - please post back here when you have done your back to back test.
Old 03-09-2018 | 07:10 PM
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Learned of one difference today. Winged cars have little plastic deflectors on the plastic undertray just behind front wheels. Touring cars do not.
Old 03-09-2018 | 07:17 PM
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Is there a section in the manual dedicated to the Touring specific information?
Old 03-10-2018 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by superchargedman
And Chris 3693 mentions that ride quality and steering is superior in the GT3t, compared to the winged GT3.
Logically, lack of rear downforce would enhance front turn in​ but that's gotta be triple digit speeds to feel it, so dunno know about this claim, perhaps he is projecting his feelings?​​​​​​
Originally Posted by evilfij
I am hoping for dunlops.
+1, Love the Dunlops
prefer the Dunlops but have gotten over 7500 miles on the Michelins. Have two GT4s, ~400 s/n and 3 months apart, first arrived on Michelins, second on Dunlops.
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Both tires are very good. I have heard Dunlops just a tad better for the street and the Mich just a tad for the track. I ended up with Mich but would of liked Dunlops so I could of compared on the Street
Old 03-10-2018 | 08:58 PM
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Probably no material but the Touring’s rear grille is tiny (and even less impressive in person). Is the winged version’s air intakes oversized for the sake of design? There’s no way the Touring gets as much air flow. Aesthetically, the Touring grille looks like an afterthought. Porsche must have run out design budget by the time they made their way to the grille. (While I love the mesh, the thick plastic frame and the ‘GT3 Touring’ badge and the wide gossy black strip destroy the look.)

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Old 03-12-2018 | 01:21 PM
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I'm also a bit concerned about the intake opening on the Touring compared to the regular version. But I doubt Porsche didn't think it through. For whatever its worth, the Touring seems to have the same intake box as the 911R. I would like to know why the couldn't fit the same as the regular version? I dont care about the plaque.



Old 03-12-2018 | 02:24 PM
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you guys should watch smoke tests in wind tunnels and I think it will answer your questions, regarding the dynamics created by the addition of the wing and what low pressure or turbulent areas are and are not created.
Old 03-12-2018 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
Probably no material but the Touring’s rear grille is tiny (and even less impressive in person). Is the winged version’s air intakes oversized for the sake of design? There’s no way the Touring gets as much air flow. Aesthetically, the Touring grille looks like an afterthought. Porsche must have run out design budget by the time they made their way to the grille. (While I love the mesh, the thick plastic frame and the ‘GT3 Touring’ badge and the wide gossy black strip destroy the look.)


R grill always was an after thought.
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Originally Posted by stout
We humans are funny beasts, however. Porschephiles, even funnier. I constantly check myself when I "perceive" a difference while road testing.
THIS, sir, is why I appreciate your approach to writing and journalism!
Old 03-29-2018 | 06:22 PM
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According to this guy there are many differences; gearbox, sound deadening, dampers etc...



I can understand dampers since wing needs to cope with more downforce but the other stuff I find hard to believe. Anybody compared the two on same road?
Old 03-29-2018 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Johisco
According to this guy there are many differences; gearbox, sound deadening, dampers etc...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgATaKt8f8


I can understand dampers since wing needs to cope with more downforce but the other stuff I find hard to believe. Anybody compared the two on same road?
This video is being discussed in another thread to no end. I don't believe for one second the springs, dampers, and transmission are any different between the wing and touring options.



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