Rennolazine

Hey folks. Seriously considering getting a 15 CPO GT3 with under 10k miles. Aside from PPI to make sure there is no accident or obvious mechanical damage/worn items, what specifically do I need to know to make sure it hasn't been tracked HARD or have engine build issues. Obviously PIWIS can look into the DME for launch modes, number of ignitions in Range 1,2,3 etc, but is there something more specific that you would add to the list? I have read some of the threads here about the .1 having engine problems and Porsche issuing a 10year engine warranty (which is a real bonus IMO).
Appreciate the advice, would be my 3rd Porsche, but first real sports car.

Psup4s

The fact you are looking at CPO def helps. Not sure a DME report will tell wether a car has been tracked or not but the CPO cert would make sure that it hasn't been (in theory anyway). Make sure brakes are ok are that your car comes with Cup 2 tires. I don't mind a car that has been tracked before as long as it passes inspection. Good luck on your search.

Rennolazine

Good call on the tires. If it doesnt have original Cup 2 (or has brand new ones) it means the original owner probably ate through them. A car with lets say 3,000 miles should not wear through them unless its tracked.

Akunob

pitt911

Just have to go and inspect car in person , may be it is me, but cars that are heavily tracked, will look tired and older , as compared to a well cared for car that is never tracked: more wear on the seats , few more scratches here and there, more wear on wheels ETC

Earlierapex

IMO, these cars are engineered to be driven hard, so a few track days is no big deal. Actually, most track guys take extraordinarily good care of the mechanical parts for good reason.

Here are some track "cheat" codes if you are still worried:
Ask to speak with the original owner.
Check for tire slag on inside of wheel barrels and small black marks on front spoiler and front of rear fenders and a high number of paint flaws on front bumper for age/mileage.
Check brake pads (if they are new or really used, that's a sign)
Have dealer check carbon content of rotors if PCCB.
Check to see if alignment is stock.
Look closely at outer edge of tires for about a 1/2 to 1 inch "glossy" band that looks like extra temperature-related wear.

misterwaterfall

Tired and older? I find most cars that are tracked are in great shape, and the owners usually replace things before they wear out and stay on top of everything. Most track owners replace/flush fluids at much shorter intervals, inspect suspension and wear parts more frequently, and have others eyes on their cars more frequently in either alignments, set ups, or tech inspections. Tracking a car isn't some weird boogeyman that you should be afraid of.

SanDiegoDavid

^^^Agree with the above. Cars that have been tracked are "proven", ie they have undergone a more vigorous test drive.
If the car has PCCB make sure the density measurement has been performed and they are above the wear limit.

misterwaterfall

These cars are driven hard at least every once in a while whether on the street on on a track. The question I ask myself is: Would I rather have a very attentive owner who changes the oil every track day, has a shop go over everything once or twice a year, and actively replaces wear parts? Or, do I want someone who takes it to red line on back roads yet doesn't do the above?

fjpdds

FYI: I traded in a Panamera that had $14,000 in body repair work. Surprised that Porsche dealer sold it CPO.

Rennolazine

Quick update. Decided I'm gonna wait on the GT3, as I wasnt too crazy about the 2015's that I am seeing. Gonna get a 991.2 C4 and daily drive it. After lots of reflection I'd really like to get the .2 GT3 (with the 4.0 and manual transmission), so probably best to wait for a while until they start hitting the used market. Hopefully when the GT3 goes turbocharged the prices wont stay out of orbit and I will be able to get one.

tstafford

FWIW - I was tracking a GT3 RS and decided to switch to a Radical. That freed up some resources to buy a 991.2 C2S as a DD. So far (about a month in) I can tell you that the 991.2 as a DD is an amazing machine. It's fun, easy and fast to drive. I think you'll love the C4 and unless you planned to track the crap out of the GT3 you're making a better overall decision.

disden

Rennolazine

Cant get a C4 allocation yet... go figure! Lol..