.2GT3 for a 2016 GT3/RS
01-01-2018 | 02:35 PM
#76
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Dave: Would love to see it. Prove me wrong. No issues. I'll admit when I'm wrong. Do it every day with the wife. Then you can teach me cause I clearly am not as good as you based on your experience. No snark. LOL.
I would however think PAG has done the analysis and back to back and they are convinced the PDK is the better box for track times. One final issue you didn't account for. PDK removes alot of the risk for the "missed" shift or grabbing the wrong gear. Also allows you to direct more attention to other tasks.
If MT's were just as fast and just as good I think pro drivers in WEC, WeatherTec etc...would be demanding them.
I would however think PAG has done the analysis and back to back and they are convinced the PDK is the better box for track times. One final issue you didn't account for. PDK removes alot of the risk for the "missed" shift or grabbing the wrong gear. Also allows you to direct more attention to other tasks.
If MT's were just as fast and just as good I think pro drivers in WEC, WeatherTec etc...would be demanding them.
Yep but stop trying to argue these “purists” will never give in even though EVERY major racing form has gone away from manual because auto is FAR SUPERIOR not tenths superior. Manual vs PDK arguments will exist until they become like 8 tracks and then folks will still have their “I remember when” stories fill the Interweb.
01-01-2018 | 03:08 PM
#77
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For me, I am not a race car driver. If the manual was 10 seconds slower around the Nurburgring, I could care less. I would still choose the manual (no I don't listen to 8 track).
01-01-2018 | 03:19 PM
#78
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Originally Posted by Waxer
See there it is again. That damn RS is an RS thing!
Mr. Skittles your not getting it. But that’s fine. The important thing is you think you do. Stay with that.
lol
Mr. Skittles your not getting it. But that’s fine. The important thing is you think you do. Stay with that.
lol
01-01-2018 | 03:32 PM
#79
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Skittles: Yes, yes. I love my 3 year old salmon colored car. True. Passed up a new PTS allocation for .2GT3. Silly me. Crazzzieee! Much rather have an RS. Go figure.
What color is your GT3? What did you pick?
Color is subjective.
"RS" is more than a badge. You will come to understand.
GT3's are great and I love them. They are dream cars for 95%-99% of people.
RS is just the next step on.
New Shelby GT350R will smoke old Shelby GT350 (non R). Which one would you choose? 2010 GT3 will smoke a 2007 GT3RS. Which one would you rather have? Many other similar examples.
Sometimes it's more than a badge.
Posted some more salmon for you. You should always have fish in your diet you know.
Happy New Year.
01-01-2018 | 03:41 PM
#80
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Dave: Truth be told I also love rowing my own. There is something magical about getting it "right" and alway working to improve. My Boss 302 TA2 that I track instead of my RS. My son ,not me ran a 57.9 at Lime Rock in July in it. I can't even get out of it that fast.
01-01-2018 | 03:41 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by Waxer
Skittles: What color is your GT3? What did you pick?
Color is subjective.
"RS" is more than a badge. You will come to understand.
GT3's are great and I love them. They are dream cars for 95%-99% of people.
RS is just the next step on.
New Shelby GT350R will smoke old Shelby GT350 (non R). Which one would you choose? 2010 GT3 will smoke a 2007 GT3RS. Which one would you rather have? Many other similar examples.
Sometimes it's more than a badge.
Color is subjective.
"RS" is more than a badge. You will come to understand.
GT3's are great and I love them. They are dream cars for 95%-99% of people.
RS is just the next step on.
New Shelby GT350R will smoke old Shelby GT350 (non R). Which one would you choose? 2010 GT3 will smoke a 2007 GT3RS. Which one would you rather have? Many other similar examples.
Sometimes it's more than a badge.
01-01-2018 | 03:55 PM
#82
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Great looking ride! And my dad races with me as well. Great to see you and your son enjoying the car and track together!
01-01-2018 | 04:01 PM
#83
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I remember reading on this forum that there was a 3 second difference between PDK and manual GT3 on Nurburgring. 3 seconds difference on a track that long, I doubt there is 1-2 second difference on a 2.5 mile track all else being equal.
For me, I am not a race car driver. If the manual was 10 seconds slower around the Nurburgring, I could care less. I would still choose the manual (no I don't listen to 8 track).
For me, I am not a race car driver. If the manual was 10 seconds slower around the Nurburgring, I could care less. I would still choose the manual (no I don't listen to 8 track).
01-01-2018 | 11:01 PM
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Sure there is. RS has now been in service for 3 years. 3.8 issues started showing up prior to 3 years in service. RS run hard by many owners with tons of track miles. Porsche press RS (poor thing) flogged relentlessly with over 30,000 tortured miles. RS engine ran in the ‘15/16 GT3R flawlessly. .1 4.0 used in two PAG flag ship cars (RS and R) in midst of 3.8 issues, F. Walliser repsenting to the Concerned owners group what the 3.8 issue was (FF mfg defect)and it has 0 to do with the 4.0, zero reported issues with RS or R, RS have from what we have seen been reliable as anvils, PAG GT engines have been hydraulic valved for generations.
what data do you have for the assumption the new .2 will be reliable long term?
btw define long term.
01-02-2018 | 12:01 AM
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01-02-2018 | 12:11 AM
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"The 2018 Gt3 is better than the 991.1 GT3 RS"- No one that's ever spent time driving or owned a 991.1 RS. IMHO the 4.0 in the RS is about as close to automotive nirvana as it gets. A couple hundred more RPMs and a smoother engine doesn't remotely equate to a more fun driving experience for me... and since when did sterility become an advantage in the car world? Errr any world come to think of it. Go for the RS and don't look back. Take the wing off if it bothers you, an RS without wing is almost more subtle than a GT3 with one.
01-02-2018 | 12:53 AM
#88
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From: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
saying a wingless 911 is sterility on a Porsche forum is top 2018 stupidity
do you like barocco
or prefer classic clean style (Porsche design)?
do you like barocco
or prefer classic clean style (Porsche design)?
01-02-2018 | 01:08 AM
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From: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
01-02-2018 | 01:10 AM
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From: The way to hell is paved by good intentions “Wenn ich Purist höre...entsichere ich meinen Browning” "Myths are fuel for marketing (and nowadays for flippers too,,,)" time to time is not sufficient to be a saint, you must be also an Hero
