911 R
12-30-2017, 07:05 AM
#61
Burning Brakes
... one advantage of being acknowledged as one of the countries with the highest premium P cars .. is that we got some 40 R's with a population of circa 24 million. The touring may even end up less numbers here in country funnily enough.
12-30-2017, 11:15 AM
#63
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12-30-2017, 11:21 AM
#64
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I'm sure the GT3 will be great. That takes nothing away from an R. An R, BTW is not necessarily compared to a 2018 car as it is compared to a 2016 GT3RS. That's the apples to apples comparison...same engine different tires, different aero, different geometry.
I have not driven a 2018 GT3. But i have plenty of time in the 2016 RS and I can say that my radio delete R is a better twisty road car (the way I like to drive it) or hooligan car than the RS is. Therefore it is more fun. The RS is definitely faster on track. The R has the best manual gearbox. The RS has the best PDK gearbox.
A touring GT3 - with the debate over xyz facts and lap times or drag times or collector status blah blah...that's going to be compared to the 2018 GT3, and 2019 RS and 2020 992 etc.
Fair or not, the R is going to get compared to the 73RS, the 964Rs, 993 RS, 997 4.0, etc. Because it's intent was to be a throwback. Well executed by the way!
The 911 R is the new "997 sport classic" to some guys and the new 73 Rs to others and the GTS++ to some guys. It's not a 250 GTO.
Don't be mad at those of us that drive our 911R's. We are using as Frank and Andy P intended. "We just living life"
Be mad all you want at the flipper vip guys. They hoarded, they took your car.
I have not driven a 2018 GT3. But i have plenty of time in the 2016 RS and I can say that my radio delete R is a better twisty road car (the way I like to drive it) or hooligan car than the RS is. Therefore it is more fun. The RS is definitely faster on track. The R has the best manual gearbox. The RS has the best PDK gearbox.
A touring GT3 - with the debate over xyz facts and lap times or drag times or collector status blah blah...that's going to be compared to the 2018 GT3, and 2019 RS and 2020 992 etc.
Fair or not, the R is going to get compared to the 73RS, the 964Rs, 993 RS, 997 4.0, etc. Because it's intent was to be a throwback. Well executed by the way!
The 911 R is the new "997 sport classic" to some guys and the new 73 Rs to others and the GTS++ to some guys. It's not a 250 GTO.
Don't be mad at those of us that drive our 911R's. We are using as Frank and Andy P intended. "We just living life"
Be mad all you want at the flipper vip guys. They hoarded, they took your car.
Just my 2 cents.
12-30-2017, 03:37 PM
#65
Very well said. I have a 991 RS and 991 R and they are very different cars. As CJ says, the RS is very planted, very easy to pin into a corner on a canyon or on a track. The R is somewhat less planted, more "fun" and unpredictable, and more of a hot rod (or hooligan car, as CJ referenced), with the same engine, different gearbox, different wheels/tires. The R feels more lively, if that makes sense. Also, the experience offers an aural and visceral difference to the RS. The LWFW also adds to the experience, and makes it very unique in the 991 lineup (and modern Porsche lineup). I grab the keys to one or the other depending on where I am going and what the desired experience is. I skipped my 991.2 GT3 allocation as I felt it would be duplicative and do not see selling either the R or RS for a very long time, if ever. Love both cars and all that they offer (and the smile they bring to my face).
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
12-30-2017, 03:40 PM
#66
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Originally Posted by ricsan
I live your same experience and also i skipped the Touring package (for the Gt2).
12-30-2017, 07:24 PM
#67
12-30-2017, 07:26 PM
#68
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Originally Posted by ricsan
Color?
01-06-2018, 04:02 PM
#70
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Very well said. I have a 991 RS and 991 R and they are very different cars. As CJ says, the RS is very planted, very easy to pin into a corner on a canyon or on a track. The R is somewhat less planted, more "fun" and unpredictable, and more of a hot rod (or hooligan car, as CJ referenced), with the same engine, different gearbox, different wheels/tires. The R feels more lively, if that makes sense. Also, the experience offers an aural and visceral difference to the RS. The LWFW also adds to the experience, and makes it very unique in the 991 lineup (and modern Porsche lineup). I grab the keys to one or the other depending on where I am going and what the desired experience is. I skipped my 991.2 GT3 allocation as I felt it would be duplicative and do not see selling either the R or RS for a very long time, if ever. Love both cars and all that they offer (and the smile they bring to my face).
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
Look for the upcoming head to head on the new Motor Trend GT3 reviews...they pitted a manual versus PDK car on the track and the results will surprise!
Jeff
01-06-2018, 09:10 PM
#72
^^^^What a great looking drive and pictures....will make all the east coast and midwest guys jealous!
Jim
Jim
01-12-2018, 06:55 AM
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