Does F engine top end rebuild solve the problem?
03-03-2017, 11:14 AM
#18
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03-03-2017, 11:27 AM
#19
Race Car
OP: You've started a number of threads on more or less this topic. Seems the anxiety level is pretty high. I wonder if it would ruin your ownership experience. Might just be worth ponying up for a new .2 GT3. Of course it will likely have gremlins too. But you'll have a long time on the original factory warranty that way.
Seems that most GT cars have something - just ask the GT4 folks about 3rd gear and the strut towers. Really none of them are bullet proof and they definitely seem more issue prone than the non-GT variants. It's well worth it to me to own one but I don't fear these problems. I figured my GT4 would blow out it's 3rd gear if I owned it and tracked it long enough. Porsche would have fixed it. Maybe something will happen with the RS and they'll probably fix that too. Or they won't.
Seems that most GT cars have something - just ask the GT4 folks about 3rd gear and the strut towers. Really none of them are bullet proof and they definitely seem more issue prone than the non-GT variants. It's well worth it to me to own one but I don't fear these problems. I figured my GT4 would blow out it's 3rd gear if I owned it and tracked it long enough. Porsche would have fixed it. Maybe something will happen with the RS and they'll probably fix that too. Or they won't.
03-03-2017, 12:12 PM
#20
OP: You've started a number of threads on more or less this topic. Seems the anxiety level is pretty high. I wonder if it would ruin your ownership experience. Might just be worth ponying up for a new .2 GT3. Of course it will likely have gremlins too. But you'll have a long time on the original factory warranty that way.
Seems that most GT cars have something - just ask the GT4 folks about 3rd gear and the strut towers. Really none of them are bullet proof and they definitely seem more issue prone than the non-GT variants. It's well worth it to me to own one but I don't fear these problems. I figured my GT4 would blow out it's 3rd gear if I owned it and tracked it long enough. Porsche would have fixed it. Maybe something will happen with the RS and they'll probably fix that too. Or they won't.
Seems that most GT cars have something - just ask the GT4 folks about 3rd gear and the strut towers. Really none of them are bullet proof and they definitely seem more issue prone than the non-GT variants. It's well worth it to me to own one but I don't fear these problems. I figured my GT4 would blow out it's 3rd gear if I owned it and tracked it long enough. Porsche would have fixed it. Maybe something will happen with the RS and they'll probably fix that too. Or they won't.
--I've had a P-car that experienced catastrophic engine failure (IMS).
--Just sold an '06 997 that was still in the risk category years for having potential IMS issues.
-- Have decided to purchase GT3 ... a potential $8-10K fix for top end is not such a big deal as tgibrit points out vvvv
03-03-2017, 03:38 PM
#22
OP i believe $40k is the price of a new engine
You may want to send a PM to Macca he is well educated on this topic and may give you good advice
If i were you since you have not purchased the car yet, i would go buy either a .2 GT3, a .1 RS or go for a .1 GT3 with a G engine. I think these are all safer bets than buying E or F and will all have longer warranty life.
Good luck
You may want to send a PM to Macca he is well educated on this topic and may give you good advice
If i were you since you have not purchased the car yet, i would go buy either a .2 GT3, a .1 RS or go for a .1 GT3 with a G engine. I think these are all safer bets than buying E or F and will all have longer warranty life.
Good luck
03-03-2017, 03:58 PM
#23
Just spoke with a reputable shop who has seen a number of the failures. They are trying to come up with a fix, but are running into roadblocks with Porsche being resistant to offering information on the issue. Apparently it is a coating with the finger followers that is causing the issue. I asked about whether tracking, etc., has an influence, and their feeling is "No", it's mileage dependent as all cars have this manufacture defect, there is no real way to know when it will happen. They said the fix they are working on will require an engine rebuild and run between $25-35K. He told me either he or his partner (not sure exactly, so don't hold me to this fact) has a 991 GT3 and he recommended not buying the .1, and strongly recommended waiting for the .2.
He said they get this same phone call from a number of GT3 owners each week.
In summary, the take away for me from this reputable source is basically "it's not a matter of "if", its a matter of "when" "
He said they get this same phone call from a number of GT3 owners each week.
In summary, the take away for me from this reputable source is basically "it's not a matter of "if", its a matter of "when" "
03-03-2017, 04:09 PM
#24
Nordschleife Master
Just spoke with a reputable shop who has seen a number of the failures. They are trying to come up with a fix, but are running into roadblocks with Porsche being resistant to offering information on the issue. Apparently it is a coating with the finger followers that is causing the issue. I asked about whether tracking, etc., has an influence, and their feeling is "No", it's mileage dependent as all cars have this manufacture defect, there is no real way to know when it will happen. They said the fix they are working on will require an engine rebuild and run between $25-35K. He told me either he or his partner (not sure exactly, so don't hold me to this fact) has a 991 GT3 and he recommended not buying the .1, and strongly recommended waiting for the .2.
He said they get this same phone call from a number of GT3 owners each week.
In summary, the take away for me from this reputable source is basically "it's not a matter of "if", its a matter of "when" "
He said they get this same phone call from a number of GT3 owners each week.
In summary, the take away for me from this reputable source is basically "it's not a matter of "if", its a matter of "when" "
03-03-2017, 05:14 PM
#27
Race Car
03-03-2017, 05:16 PM
#28
Race Car
Just spoke with a reputable shop who has seen a number of the failures. They are trying to come up with a fix, but are running into roadblocks with Porsche being resistant to offering information on the issue. Apparently it is a coating with the finger followers that is causing the issue. I asked about whether tracking, etc., has an influence, and their feeling is "No", it's mileage dependent as all cars have this manufacture defect, there is no real way to know when it will happen. They said the fix they are working on will require an engine rebuild and run between $25-35K. He told me either he or his partner (not sure exactly, so don't hold me to this fact) has a 991 GT3 and he recommended not buying the .1, and strongly recommended waiting for the .2.
He said they get this same phone call from a number of GT3 owners each week.
In summary, the take away for me from this reputable source is basically "it's not a matter of "if", its a matter of "when" "
He said they get this same phone call from a number of GT3 owners each week.
In summary, the take away for me from this reputable source is basically "it's not a matter of "if", its a matter of "when" "
03-03-2017, 06:29 PM
#29
I also spoke with my service manager this morning who reported he is hearing of more and more cars experiencing this issue. He said he hopes Porsche will stand behind the engines and continue to fix them out of warranty, but no gaurantees.
So as bad as I want to get one now, when rational thought kicks in and the red mist clears, it would probably be a dumb move. As this issue becomes more known (outside of RL and avid enthusiast circles), prices are going to inevitably drop (the 997 GT3 may be more valuable, who knows?), and they are going to be a hard sell IMO.
For the time being, I'll enjoy the cars I have, keep looking for my 246 Dino (talk about a hard car to find a "good one"), consider purchasing a 458 for short-term ownership, and pick up .2 from someone who has an allocation with the plan to just to flip it.
03-03-2017, 10:32 PM
#30
Drifting
OP: You've started a number of threads on more or less this topic. Seems the anxiety level is pretty high. I wonder if it would ruin your ownership experience. Might just be worth ponying up for a new .2 GT3. Of course it will likely have gremlins too. But you'll have a long time on the original factory warranty that way.
Seems that most GT cars have something - just ask the GT4 folks about 3rd gear and the strut towers. Really none of them are bullet proof and they definitely seem more issue prone than the non-GT variants. It's well worth it to me to own one but I don't fear these problems. I figured my GT4 would blow out it's 3rd gear if I owned it and tracked it long enough. Porsche would have fixed it. Maybe something will happen with the RS and they'll probably fix that too. Or they won't.
Seems that most GT cars have something - just ask the GT4 folks about 3rd gear and the strut towers. Really none of them are bullet proof and they definitely seem more issue prone than the non-GT variants. It's well worth it to me to own one but I don't fear these problems. I figured my GT4 would blow out it's 3rd gear if I owned it and tracked it long enough. Porsche would have fixed it. Maybe something will happen with the RS and they'll probably fix that too. Or they won't.