Spy shots of 991.2 GT3 RS 4.2 - supposedly
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you can see clearly the exhaust under the supposed intercooler
furthermore the drilled holes on the rear bumper, are not sufficiently large to let the
air pumped to the intercooler to flow out
that means its normally aspirated
furthermore the drilled holes on the rear bumper, are not sufficiently large to let the
air pumped to the intercooler to flow out
that means its normally aspirated
#92
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It is interesting to look at the exhaust of the car. It clearly has a center muffler with exhaust valves inside of the exhaust tip. There are a couple of images where you can see the exhaust valve in the closed position This is definitely a departure from the 991 and 997 style N/A exhaust and more in line with the 997-991 turbo style exhaust. If you zoom in on the images you can see more mechanical bits under there that indicate the presence of a turbo.
Someone on here commented on the openings and the holes cut in the rear bumper. At this point we don't know how big the opening is. Porsche has done a good job of covering up the rear bumper cover opening they intend to use. For street driving the holes cut in the camouflage piece should suffice for cooling of the intercooler (if present). In the first image of this article (http://www.total911.com/exclusive-20...ment-ramps-up/) you can see on the drivers side the opening is a pretty big in size behind the camo'd piece. In this same image you can see the lack of a side muffler us GT3 owners have become accustomed to.
To summarize Porsche is doing one of two things. They are reading Rennlist to get our impressions of the car and to laugh at how analytical we get at pictures saying it is a turbo because of the clever disguises installed on the car. Or they are really planning a turbo motor and doing their best to cover it up.
Someone on here commented on the openings and the holes cut in the rear bumper. At this point we don't know how big the opening is. Porsche has done a good job of covering up the rear bumper cover opening they intend to use. For street driving the holes cut in the camouflage piece should suffice for cooling of the intercooler (if present). In the first image of this article (http://www.total911.com/exclusive-20...ment-ramps-up/) you can see on the drivers side the opening is a pretty big in size behind the camo'd piece. In this same image you can see the lack of a side muffler us GT3 owners have become accustomed to.
To summarize Porsche is doing one of two things. They are reading Rennlist to get our impressions of the car and to laugh at how analytical we get at pictures saying it is a turbo because of the clever disguises installed on the car. Or they are really planning a turbo motor and doing their best to cover it up.
#93
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“All of the experience in making GT cars and all of the experience in making the RSR and developing it over the years has really all come together with this car,” he said.
“After a lot of concepts and discussions, we could quickly go out. I’m happy with the results.”
The new 911, which is understood to feature revised engine and gearbox placements for improved weight distribution, is also believed to again be powered by a derivative of the current four-liter flat-six normally aspirated engine.
Walliser said both normally aspirated and turbo engines were evaluated and a decision was made at the last possible moment in the development timeline.
“For sure with every new car, you need to have a deep look at the regulations to make the right decisions,” he said.
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perhaps it's my poor grasp of english.
but walliser really didn't say anything in this conversation. but he is very good in putting a lot of words together.
“After a lot of concepts and discussions, we could quickly go out. I’m happy with the results.”
The new 911, which is understood to feature revised engine and gearbox placements for improved weight distribution, is also believed to again be powered by a derivative of the current four-liter flat-six normally aspirated engine.
Walliser said both normally aspirated and turbo engines were evaluated and a decision was made at the last possible moment in the development timeline.
“For sure with every new car, you need to have a deep look at the regulations to make the right decisions,” he said.
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perhaps it's my poor grasp of english.
but walliser really didn't say anything in this conversation. but he is very good in putting a lot of words together.
Didn't see the word old and I agree with Mooty; wording was suitably vague as to leave mucho latitude.
As for Ford GT mopping the field, that has nothing to do with engine choice. BoP, series politics, team dynamics, strategy, and luck are what win races and championships.
As for Ford GT mopping the field, that has nothing to do with engine choice. BoP, series politics, team dynamics, strategy, and luck are what win races and championships.
As for engine choice not mattering... I despise BOP, wish they'd make it run what you brung rather than allow Porsche to cheap out and not develop a new engine.
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It is interesting to look at the exhaust of the car. It clearly has a center muffler with exhaust valves inside of the exhaust tip. There are a couple of images where you can see the exhaust valve in the closed position This is definitely a departure from the 991 and 997 style N/A exhaust and more in line with the 997-991 turbo style exhaust. If you zoom in on the images you can see more mechanical bits under there that indicate the presence of a turbo.
Someone on here commented on the openings and the holes cut in the rear bumper. At this point we don't know how big the opening is. Porsche has done a good job of covering up the rear bumper cover opening they intend to use. For street driving the holes cut in the camouflage piece should suffice for cooling of the intercooler (if present). In the first image of this article (http://www.total911.com/exclusive-20...ment-ramps-up/) you can see on the drivers side the opening is a pretty big in size behind the camo'd piece. In this same image you can see the lack of a side muffler us GT3 owners have become accustomed to.
To summarize Porsche is doing one of two things. They are reading Rennlist to get our impressions of the car and to laugh at how analytical we get at pictures saying it is a turbo because of the clever disguises installed on the car. Or they are really planning a turbo motor and doing their best to cover it up.
Someone on here commented on the openings and the holes cut in the rear bumper. At this point we don't know how big the opening is. Porsche has done a good job of covering up the rear bumper cover opening they intend to use. For street driving the holes cut in the camouflage piece should suffice for cooling of the intercooler (if present). In the first image of this article (http://www.total911.com/exclusive-20...ment-ramps-up/) you can see on the drivers side the opening is a pretty big in size behind the camo'd piece. In this same image you can see the lack of a side muffler us GT3 owners have become accustomed to.
To summarize Porsche is doing one of two things. They are reading Rennlist to get our impressions of the car and to laugh at how analytical we get at pictures saying it is a turbo because of the clever disguises installed on the car. Or they are really planning a turbo motor and doing their best to cover it up.
you will notice close to little air flowing through the holes and surface getting very hot
a turbo RS intercooler develop a lot of hot air(more than Turbo S)
putting a grid doesn't look good neither for testing
nor for prod
unless you want to laugh of ppl simulating a Turbo
or simply I think the .2RS bumper is not yet ready
to accommodate a new exhaust design heating the .1 bumper release hence the holes
they have used already the .2 turbo S bumper on the GT2 RS test mule caught this winter isn't it?
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