991 GT2RS
#571
Burning Brakes
I'll take a stab at a couple of these questions:
1. Wheels will probably be same as 3RS, but it's possible that we'll see the expensive Magnesium wheels from the 918 that are the identical sizes as the 3RS.
2. I expect to see only 918 seats through the rest of 991 production. New seats usually come with a brand new generation.
3. I think we'll see just PDK, since all the Turbo cars have been using PDK only now for quite a few years (and there are good reasons for it - like no lag on upshifts). Also, not sure any of the existing manual gearboxes available are rated for 600 ft-lbs or whatever ridiculous amount of torque we should expect with the 2RS. The PDK for the Turbo S is already pretty beefy.
1. Wheels will probably be same as 3RS, but it's possible that we'll see the expensive Magnesium wheels from the 918 that are the identical sizes as the 3RS.
2. I expect to see only 918 seats through the rest of 991 production. New seats usually come with a brand new generation.
3. I think we'll see just PDK, since all the Turbo cars have been using PDK only now for quite a few years (and there are good reasons for it - like no lag on upshifts). Also, not sure any of the existing manual gearboxes available are rated for 600 ft-lbs or whatever ridiculous amount of torque we should expect with the 2RS. The PDK for the Turbo S is already pretty beefy.
Yeah Nizer, that's true, with lack of new info to talk about, convo strays lol Which is why I tried to steer convo back into the right direction and give us some things to speculate about. I REALLY like Grant's idea of carrying over the 918's Magnesium wheels and making them standard affair on the GT2RS! PCCB will probably be standard with steel rotors as a no-cost option for track rats. ROW will get lexan rear window and half cage as standard. Sport Chrono will probably be standard. Oh and one last thing, the GT2RS will be the first GT car offered as a convertible!! hahha ok I'm just kidding about that last part
#577
Burning Brakes
YEP! Since we know that Porsche does have their eyes and ears open, maybe we give them a great idea that they add to the cars since nothing is set in stone yet
If you haven't yet, chances are you're about a year or so behind the 8-ball already and pretty much should start talking to your 918 buddies about buying their allocation from them. Or start putting money aside for the 100K over MSRP cars that will pop up on Ebay shortly after release. Many people just have a substantial deposit sitting at their dealership as a good faith deposit on the next "special/GT" car that is announced. So you know that 992 GT3RS 4.5 Liter car that will be coming out? It's got many many deposits already even though it's not even a thing. You'd be surprised how many people have deposits on the FeFi aka 960 even though it's looking more and more like it's stillborn. But not all dealers will do this and even ones that do, wont necessarily do this with just any customer. Some will only allow it for special customers who have LONG standing relationships with them. Often are also personal friends not just business relationships. Have you been golfing with your GM for the past 30 years and maybe slip him some tickets to take his wife to go see Hamilton for their anniversary?
^late to the game lol just kidding, that's about right!
^late to the game lol just kidding, that's about right!
#578
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If you are late to the bar you won't be taking home the dime or the one looking for action. You are left with the depressed one who's skank friends ditched her.
Same with allocations.
IF THE CAR IS LIMITED / EXCLUSIVE AND YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR NAME DOWN NONE ARE LEFT.
want to see Star Wars opening night? Not as bad as the geeks who camped for tickets.
A million possible examples.
Same with allocations.
IF THE CAR IS LIMITED / EXCLUSIVE AND YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR NAME DOWN NONE ARE LEFT.
want to see Star Wars opening night? Not as bad as the geeks who camped for tickets.
A million possible examples.
#579
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There are a ton of buyers.
Worldwide there were almost 10,000 people who APPLIED for a Ford GT!!! And that is going to be 500,000 MSRP with options!
I think there are 35,000-50,000 people who can afford (real car buyers) cars in the 140-250 range. If you don't believe me:
Ferrari sells 8,000 cars a year. And those are all "special"
Porsche sells 3000-5000 GT3 and Turbo vehicles at least. Maybe 10,000. I am not sure.
Mclaren sells 2500 sports car/ hypercar
Lambo sells 4000+
Aston
Rolls
Bentley
Jag F type R / SVR
Audi R8
Viper ACR
Nismo GTR
And let's not forget Mercedes. The SLS, Amg GTS, etc.
What else is out there?
Lots of people, at least 3000 are hardcore dudes buying 2-4+ cars a year. Multiple Porsches. A porsche and a mclaren. A BAC and a Ferrari. An Aston and a Bentley. Etc.
At the very top, there are 100-500 collectors worldwide who literally compete with each other for the MOST important/ limited/ etc cars. At least 2 of them are on this board. They end up with R's and 918's and P1s but those cars are their chips and salsa.
F1
Alfa Romeo 2300 8C
250LM
250 TDF
962
917
LeMans winning cars
Etc.
Those are real collector cars. We just drive sports cars compared to those guys. And of course the dealers will pander to them.
Worldwide there were almost 10,000 people who APPLIED for a Ford GT!!! And that is going to be 500,000 MSRP with options!
I think there are 35,000-50,000 people who can afford (real car buyers) cars in the 140-250 range. If you don't believe me:
Ferrari sells 8,000 cars a year. And those are all "special"
Porsche sells 3000-5000 GT3 and Turbo vehicles at least. Maybe 10,000. I am not sure.
Mclaren sells 2500 sports car/ hypercar
Lambo sells 4000+
Aston
Rolls
Bentley
Jag F type R / SVR
Audi R8
Viper ACR
Nismo GTR
And let's not forget Mercedes. The SLS, Amg GTS, etc.
What else is out there?
Lots of people, at least 3000 are hardcore dudes buying 2-4+ cars a year. Multiple Porsches. A porsche and a mclaren. A BAC and a Ferrari. An Aston and a Bentley. Etc.
At the very top, there are 100-500 collectors worldwide who literally compete with each other for the MOST important/ limited/ etc cars. At least 2 of them are on this board. They end up with R's and 918's and P1s but those cars are their chips and salsa.
F1
Alfa Romeo 2300 8C
250LM
250 TDF
962
917
LeMans winning cars
Etc.
Those are real collector cars. We just drive sports cars compared to those guys. And of course the dealers will pander to them.
#580
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#581
Burning Brakes
If you are late to the bar you won't be taking home the dime or the one looking for action. You are left with the depressed one who's skank friends ditched her.
Same with allocations.
IF THE CAR IS LIMITED / EXCLUSIVE AND YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR NAME DOWN NONE ARE LEFT.
want to see Star Wars opening night? Not as bad as the geeks who camped for tickets.
A million possible examples.
Same with allocations.
IF THE CAR IS LIMITED / EXCLUSIVE AND YOU DIDN'T PUT YOUR NAME DOWN NONE ARE LEFT.
want to see Star Wars opening night? Not as bad as the geeks who camped for tickets.
A million possible examples.
And Mooty's not even kidding! Rumor has it Mooty came out out of his mother's womb and went straight to the Porsche dealer and slapped down a deposit so he'd have a Special Edition 911 for his 16th birthday and he'd have plenty of time to spec it out.
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Quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever read on RL and SO TRUE!!!
And Mooty's not even kidding! Rumor has it Mooty came out out of his mother's womb and went straight to the Porsche dealer and slapped down a deposit so he'd have a Special Edition 911 for his 16th birthday and he'd have plenty of time to spec it out.
And Mooty's not even kidding! Rumor has it Mooty came out out of his mother's womb and went straight to the Porsche dealer and slapped down a deposit so he'd have a Special Edition 911 for his 16th birthday and he'd have plenty of time to spec it out.
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No comment regarding Mooty's ability to navigate female anatomy but here's some perspective on future GT2 RS demand and pricing: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...e-911-gt2-tho/
#584
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Quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever read on RL and SO TRUE!!!
And Mooty's not even kidding! Rumor has it Mooty came out out of his mother's womb and went straight to the Porsche dealer and slapped down a deposit so he'd have a Special Edition 911 for his 16th birthday and he'd have plenty of time to spec it out.
And Mooty's not even kidding! Rumor has it Mooty came out out of his mother's womb and went straight to the Porsche dealer and slapped down a deposit so he'd have a Special Edition 911 for his 16th birthday and he'd have plenty of time to spec it out.
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No comment regarding Mooty's ability to navigate female anatomy but here's some perspective on future GT2 RS demand and pricing: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...e-911-gt2-tho/