doubleurx

Don't tell Nick!....LOL

GrantG

Don't think so - the rev limiter works just as well with manual as pdk. It just won't save your butt if you choose 2nd instead of 4th from high speed. Making redline 100 rpm lower does nothing for that...

Jimmy-D

I think this is there 911 version of the GT4 in a way but on steroids. Now - whether you can utilize this power on the streets is a whole different story.

Oh forgot - they are only making ~900 of these and they are all sold

carcommander

Meh, unless you just gotta have an MT.

Nizer

I agree but I think the only real thing most of us will be missing out on is the ability to own and drive one.

C.J. Ichiban

Says the guy with the PTS gt3rs! Lol

Nizer

That's not PTS; it's UV shot in bad lighting with a really cheap camera phone..

montoya

It's not so much on the upshifts but on the downshifts as anyone who has done a 'money shift' (guilty) knows. Check out the overrev ranges on the GT3 and GT3RS motor, they have a much lower safety margin. Makes sense since PDK takes out human error, you can "use" what was in the past Stage 1 and Stage 2 overrevs. Now Stage 1 overrev engine damage is "possible". So, by backing it down by some 100 RPM off of the GT3 RS and 400 off the GT3 you have more margin to, ummm... well you know, miss that downshift just a little.

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...ed-events.html

From the post:
Rev ranges - 911 GT3 (991):
Create the VAL before deleting the fault memory. Overspeed events are documented as follows in the VAL:


Rev range 1: 9,000 -1 ... to 9,200 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed exceeded; engine damage possible.

Rev range 2: 9,200 -1 ... to 9,500 -1
⇒ Maximum permitted engine speed clearly exceeded; engine damage probable.

Rev range 3: over 9,500 -1
⇒ Engine damage has generally occurred.

Alan Smithee

Makes sense that Porsche might have reduced the over-rev margin for error on PDK-S cars, not originally expecting to hook a manual to these motors.

tcsracing1

I really like what they did with the stripes and interior. (I am a sucker for nostalgia).
I must admit, if i were currently porscheless. this would be a fun place to start for a weekend hotrod. Fresh, warranty, limited, stick, exciting. (expensive )
Rich man's GT4...

This is something we all kinda thought about back in 997.2 GT3 days. A GT car with no wing, urban assault weapon! We assumed it would be for less money. Like a RSA.

Now they finally build one and command a premium, which of course they can.

Given that I already have a plain jane white 997.1 GT3 in my driveway, I do not feel the urge to really desire another 2 seater manual 911 GT water pumper my driveway. Especially given the price point of the R. And to be honest, i think for the long term id be just as happy or happier with a mezger manual in my driveway for weekend rips.

For me (since i already have a bunch of P cars), this would be an awesome car to drive for the summer and flip it for over MSRP once out of my system. But i am a hoarder, not a flipper..... I cannot resist the urge to keep cars.

Id say folks who already have GT3, GT4 or GT3PDK are just as happy with what they have and not interested in the 991R at any price.

This car really is for a different market IMO.
Too bad, would have been fun alternative to GT4 had they built more of them.

997rs4.0

+1^

Nizer

But a perfect compliment to GT3 RS....

carcommander

It's a decontended RS with a MT. I have zero interest. A good thing, I have not been offered one.

Just in time

Wonder how car will be judged when the inevitable road tango occurs with a 991 3.8 GT3, and the latter has the former for lunch?

bronson7

^^^Very interesting Q