EVO leaderboards: 991GT3RS
#32
Jethro is a top journalist and was glad to see him get this review.
Versus the Speciale, it is a win for the GT3RS. Punching above its weight class in terms of power and price, and doing so without the extra tires and support that the Ferrari received.
Having said that, the Turbo S came out better than either in my opinion. Equivalent tires and you are probably seeing the Turbo set an even faster lap time. Its heavier, doesn't have the ultra responsive PDK, and perhaps misses some of the feel and a ton of the sound of the GT3RS, but against the clock it is a force.
Im sure the lighter RS would last longer on the track and the wear on components would be less, however the Turbo S isn't made of glass either. With the speed, you also get all the comfort features you could wish for, back seats, all weather performance, and a weapon on the track when you do take it there.
Ultimately, the RS will hold its value better and will be the one that gets talked about more. But for those who missed out, a Turbo S after the depreciation sets in, will be a massive performance bargain in the Porsche lineup.
Versus the Speciale, it is a win for the GT3RS. Punching above its weight class in terms of power and price, and doing so without the extra tires and support that the Ferrari received.
Having said that, the Turbo S came out better than either in my opinion. Equivalent tires and you are probably seeing the Turbo set an even faster lap time. Its heavier, doesn't have the ultra responsive PDK, and perhaps misses some of the feel and a ton of the sound of the GT3RS, but against the clock it is a force.
Im sure the lighter RS would last longer on the track and the wear on components would be less, however the Turbo S isn't made of glass either. With the speed, you also get all the comfort features you could wish for, back seats, all weather performance, and a weapon on the track when you do take it there.
Ultimately, the RS will hold its value better and will be the one that gets talked about more. But for those who missed out, a Turbo S after the depreciation sets in, will be a massive performance bargain in the Porsche lineup.
#33
Jethro talking about the Turbo S's lap time if you remember: "The lap is 6 tenths quicker than a 458 speciale, 3 seconds quicker than a '15 GTR, and I suspect out of reach for a GT3, or even a GT3RS.."
So I guess it did much better than he expected..?
So I guess it did much better than he expected..?
#34
"Ultimately, the RS will hold its value better and will be the one that gets talked about more. But for those who missed out, a Turbo S after the depreciation sets in, will be a massive performance bargain in the Porsche lineup"
^^ agree. power is at another level. I am really on the fence if offered an RS (have a slight chance for a used one in March). I really like my GT3 and its config. kinda hoping the RS never comes around because I am not sure i would like it that much more. And has to be Purple!
^^ agree. power is at another level. I am really on the fence if offered an RS (have a slight chance for a used one in March). I really like my GT3 and its config. kinda hoping the RS never comes around because I am not sure i would like it that much more. And has to be Purple!
#35
#36
Boost leaks
As someone driving a 996TT, tuned to 650hp and set up for the track, and also moving to a 991 GT3RS this Fall, the one point I would make about the turbos is that because they are materially more complex with their twin turbo boost hoses, intercoolers, etc, they are less reliable. Over time with hard use boost leaks develop and eat into your track time as you hunt them down. The boost systems are inherently fragile and a small air leak in a system with more than fifteen connections can put you into limp mode quickly.
I am sure my 650hp 996tt is faster in a straight line than my stock 991 GT3RS, but I am also confident that the 991 GT3RS will be a much better and much more reliable track car.
I am sure my 650hp 996tt is faster in a straight line than my stock 991 GT3RS, but I am also confident that the 991 GT3RS will be a much better and much more reliable track car.
#37
Three Wheelin'
As someone driving a 996TT, tuned to 650hp and set up for the track, and also moving to a 991 GT3RS this Fall, the one point I would make about the turbos is that because they are materially more complex with their twin turbo boost hoses, intercoolers, etc, they are less reliable. Over time with hard use boost leaks develop and eat into your track time as you hunt them down. The boost systems are inherently fragile and a small air leak in a system with more than fifteen connections can put you into limp mode quickly.
I am sure my 650hp 996tt is faster in a straight line than my stock 991 GT3RS, but I am also confident that the 991 GT3RS will be a much better and much more reliable track car.
I am sure my 650hp 996tt is faster in a straight line than my stock 991 GT3RS, but I am also confident that the 991 GT3RS will be a much better and much more reliable track car.
To me cars with Turbos or Super Chargers are like athletes on steroids. Whereas the NA engines are "natural" born athletes.
Here is a video to enjoy how the current 991 GT3RS performs at the track.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
#38
These test are very much subjective.
How on Earth Turbo S with only 40HP more is 1.6sec faster than a regular Turbo on such a short circuit?
By the way... I'd rather see some proper performance compare than another "talking while drifting".
How on Earth Turbo S with only 40HP more is 1.6sec faster than a regular Turbo on such a short circuit?
By the way... I'd rather see some proper performance compare than another "talking while drifting".
#39
Rennlist Member
It may have already been mention here but the Speciale was driven by Richard Meaden and the RS by Jethro so nott same driver's either. IMO Jethro is the better natural talent behind the wheel. However Id expect the RS still to win...