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Old 02-14-2015, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IvanBurns
Does anyone know how much weight is saved by the light weight battery?
About 22lbs. http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=510

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Also, how long does it last and how much is the replacement when it dies ?
Hard to kill; never owned mine long enough to find out and I was the second owner. It has a self-preservation mode that switches off the battery when it starts to run low on juice. It had a lot of cranking power but you couldn't use them in low temps.

Regarding price, if you have to ask....
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I need a black car. seriously no black? how can that be? guess Im buying a Ford GT and a Hellcat with my RS money..not really im just gonna pout
Old 02-14-2015, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
I'm told GT3 production to end in next 4 weeks ( originally intended to finish end FEB but extended due to demand and issues over Xmas with LWB seat supply....
So PAG extend production due to demand on GT3 and some say RS production will be limited in time and therefore in numbers? Why then would they eat further into building RS's - a car they can make more money on and clearly have worked the market up into a frenzy....

1. - they are indeed only making 500

I can't see the logic of this - after all the hassles with the GT3 and the effort to sort (it would have cost them several euros to sort) why would you limit your returns when clearly you can make some handsome ones with the RS? Also, its logical only limited runs of RS come at the end of production - not the beginning.

2. - they will make cars for the demand

as per the GT3! If it becomes apparent its not a limited run, many of the names on the dealer lists will drop off and the dealer will then have the "real" numbers; even more so now we have it confirmed this is a hardcore track machine!

heres hoping anyway!
Old 02-14-2015, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
I'm told GT3 production to end in next 4 weeks ( originally intended to finish end FEB but extended due to demand and issues over Xmas with LWB seat supply....
Is this for U.S. orders, or only other parts of the World?
I was under the assumption U.S. allocations were done some time ago with the last finishing production now and latest deliveries to be end of March and/or very early April deliveries….
Old 02-14-2015, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
About 22lbs. http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=510



Hard to kill; never owned mine long enough to find out and I was the second owner. It has a self-preservation mode that switches off the battery when it starts to run low on juice. It had a lot of cranking power but you couldn't use them in low temps.

Regarding price, if you have to ask....
Ive been told the batter will be half the price of the original unit, but a bit bigger (for RWS). Ridiculous in this day as you can buy LiOn batteries from specialist suppliers now for less than $1K USD. The factory supplied battery on the 991 GT3 is already AGM and thus I guess lighter than a traditional cell. Battery tech is increasing along the Mores law principle and prices coming down rapidly. If you are keeping your Gt3 or RS for the long term probably better value to go AGM fro free then upgrade to LiOn after-market supplier in 4 years time when they will be $500 USD and even smaller and better?
Old 02-14-2015, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
Yup, as previously posted dealers have been offered additional allocations.
Not in RHD markets like ours and UK unfortunately! Inafct in the UK a 12 month old 001 GT3 with reasonable spec and less than 6000 miles will sell for 50% more than its original list!!! They never got enough.

I agree the 991 GT3RS makes no sense to be restricted. I believe it will be restricted only by build window and that is only if they haven't been able to get Euro 6 exception for the car and it needs to complete production by end of September. Even if this is the case Ive been led to believe they will still produce "numbers in line with previous generations" of this car - that means 1600-1900 units worldwide. have no fear it will not be a 500 unit car. Maybe USA maybe get 6-800 units but that means the rest of the world will get 800-1000 so you can see where Im going with this. This is what I have been told.
Old 02-14-2015, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1198r
So PAG extend production due to demand on GT3 and some say RS production will be limited in time and therefore in numbers? Why then would they eat further into building RS's - a car they can make more money on and clearly have worked the market up into a frenzy....

1. - they are indeed only making 500

I can't see the logic of this - after all the hassles with the GT3 and the effort to sort (it would have cost them several euros to sort) why would you limit your returns when clearly you can make some handsome ones with the RS? Also, its logical only limited runs of RS come at the end of production - not the beginning.

2. - they will make cars for the demand

as per the GT3! If it becomes apparent its not a limited run, many of the names on the dealer lists will drop off and the dealer will then have the "real" numbers; even more so now we have it confirmed this is a hardcore track machine!

heres hoping anyway!
If I understand Macca's info correctly the production run was extended only for 1 additional month and for specific reasons involving LWB supply and the Xmas holiday factory shutdown. That doesn't seem like a major CIP to me and shouldn't affect demand, production numbers, or marketing for either car by much if at all. Just my $.02.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
If I understand Macca's info correctly the production run was extended only for 1 additional month and for specific reasons involving LWB supply and the Xmas holiday factory shutdown. That doesn't seem like a major CIP to me and shouldn't affect demand, production numbers, or marketing for either car by much if at all. Just my $.02.
Hi Mike. Sorry I should have been more clear for some. Yes as you say. Last October the forecast was to complete production of GT3 just prior to March Geneva show. However supply issues with LWB seats affected this and i am of the understanding production is now completing end of week 12 2015. Overall production numbers are in line with APs original estimates of 3000 units globally.

The 991 GT3RS production schedule is not affected by the above as it was not due to start till end of week 16 2015 that I am aware.

However this is a moving game and the information I have is combination of new and old plus date ranges from various PAG documents I have seen and been told about by my network of faithful WORLD WIDE SPIES (you guys know who you are and thank you once again!)etc.
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^^ Macca - thanks for the insight and ever informative news. Be interested to hear your views on if you think once people realise its not a 500 run car, they will disappear? If we are talking about those circa 1500 - 1900 numbers, I wonder if it means there would still be more demand than supply? Be interesting to know how production numbers v demand was on previous gens. However, with this being PDK, i'm sure this has a reason why there is more interest; only saviour to this will be the "track focussed bad as rocking hard suspension etc...." can't see too many here in UAE liking that!

^ Mike - agreed on a month making little difference, but its more the principle and therefore the hope it could happen for the RS.
Old 02-14-2015, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Hi Mike. Sorry I should have been more clear for some. Yes as you say.
Originally Posted by 1198r
^ Mike - agreed on a month making little difference, but its more the principle and therefore the hope it could happen for the RS.
No worries gents, and I understand!

Mark, thanks for all the info. Hope you got a good start on your tan today.
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Thanks mate. Got a bit burnt today! Here I am in front if Mexican Pipeline 5 mins ago :-)

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Old 02-14-2015, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Thanks mate. Got a bit burnt today! Here I am in front if Mexican Pipeline 5 mins ago :-)
Nice.

Come to Florida in the summer, you can get a proper sunburn. LOL

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Old 02-14-2015, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Macca
Ive been told the batter will be half the price of the original unit, but a bit bigger (for RWS). Ridiculous in this day as you can buy LiOn batteries from specialist suppliers now for less than $1K USD. The factory supplied battery on the 991 GT3 is already AGM and thus I guess lighter than a traditional cell. Battery tech is increasing along the Mores law principle and prices coming down rapidly. If you are keeping your Gt3 or RS for the long term probably better value to go AGM fro free then upgrade to LiOn after-market supplier in 4 years time when they will be $500 USD and even smaller and better?
You meant Morres Law
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Originally Posted by silverrules
You meant Morres Law
Moore's Law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

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