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the front is made to be hit. for steep inclines.. the 30* angle rule always works... one wheel touches and lifts the front and by the time the rear would be in danger the rear wheel lifts for the rear... and you're golden.. having driven insanely lowered vehicles over the years.. it's an end all be all solution for low front ends..
Exactly. That's how I've driven my cars in the past. The nice thing about the front is its a replaceable part. The lift option is great if absolutely needed but if you can do without one less item to worry about. Excess weight, equipment that has no performance value whatsoever and most likely has a negative impact in handling/performance vs a non lift GT3.
Sorry, that makes less sense than saying the bumper is made to be hit so who cares if you hit it. If the front spoiler was designed to truly be a break away part it wouldn't be rigidly attached to a $6K front valence.
If there is a way to help keep from doing repeated damage to a part on my vehicle, for a minimal 6kg weight penalty and no effect on performance, I will buy it. The ONLY other conceivable consideration is the cost which is a negligible percentage of a $150K car, IMHO, and if it really comes down to an economic choice I'd much rather spend my money on a lift than leather covered dash vents or what have you.
I understand that others feel differently; that's what makes the world go 'round....
4 years of 997.2 ownership and never had a problem without the annoying, buggy, weight adding, not needed in FL lift. Bought a spare lip but never changed it, except for the Cup lip for the track.
Sorry, that makes less sense than saying the bumper is made to be hit so who cares if you hit it. If the front spoiler was designed to truly be a break away part it wouldn't be rigidly attached to a $6K front valence.
If there is a way to help keep from doing repeated damage to a part on my vehicle, for a minimal 6kg weight penalty and no effect on performance, I will buy it. The ONLY other conceivable consideration is the cost which is a negligible percentage of a $150K car, IMHO, and if it really comes down to an economic choice I'd much rather spend my money on a lift than leather covered dash vents or what have you.
I understand that others feel differently; that's what makes the world go 'round....
Exactly. Sorry I just have to laugh at this post, and this will be my last comment on this one Everyone's situation is different on the lift, and some need it and some don't? If your spending 150k on a car not sure why a 3k option is so debatable? I'm pretty sure there's not too many drives on this board that will say I missed a 10th of a second because the lift was attached ........serious? It weight is an issued take out the passenger seat, and all the carpets that would be some savings.
I know this has been discussed till death here! But I have not seen any real life pic of how low the GT3 is on the street.
So here is a pic of my GT3 parked on the street with the front lift activates, the curb isn't actually that high as you can see. But the combination of the slop and the long overhang means, there really isn't much clearance. Guess what will happen if I didn't have the lift!
.... if I put tracing paper over my computer screen, carefully draw all the letters in the posts on this thread, and then overlay it onto another "lift thread"... I'm pretty sure they would match up pretty closely.
Congrats to the OP for finding a creative new way to wind up the crew on this. This should be a competition: create one single, seemingly innocuous and non-flagrant post, to start the "lift" discussion... And then see how many thread pages you can accumulate. Winner announced end of 2014.
Wait; why stop there, we can do this again in 2015.
True dat...the manual says that the lift "cannot be maintained in the upper position over an extended period without active replenishing of the pressure accumulator or engine operation" so you shouldn't park over the top of stuff for long periods of time.
That said, as long as the lift is in good working order, parking somewhere for a couple of hours isn't going to be a problem. I've forgotten to lower my car in the garage a few times and come out a day later to find it still proud and erect.
.... if I put tracing paper over my computer screen, carefully draw all the letters in the posts on this thread, and then overlay it onto another "lift thread"... I'm pretty sure they would match up pretty closely.
Congrats to the OP for finding a creative new way to wind up the crew on this. This should be a competition: create one single, seemingly innocuous and non-flagrant post, to start the "lift" discussion... And then see how many thread pages you can accumulate. Winner announced end of 2014.
Wait; why stop there, we can do this again in 2015.
Shoot, Alex, 50% of the threads on here are a perpetual recycling of one topic or another......it's harmless.....
Originally Posted by blackbull
Glad to hear it was hard enough for you .
My phrasing was purposeful, I knew someone would get kicks from commenting on it....
Originally Posted by Tacet-Conundrum
Oh C'mon Gub-nuh, front airdams are like brakes and tires - use 'em up an' replace 'em!
If there was an option you could buy that would largely prevent brake or tire wear, or greatly increase their life, you wouldn't consider it?
True dat...the manual says that the lift "cannot be maintained in the upper position over an extended period without active replenishing of the pressure accumulator or engine operation" so you shouldn't park over the top of stuff for long periods of time.
That said, as long as the lift is in good working order, parking somewhere for a couple of hours isn't going to be a problem. I've forgotten to lower my car in the garage a few times and come out a day later to find it still proud and erect.
Do we need to call the service department if it lasts for more than 4 hours...
Not to throw this off topic too much, but has anyone that has already taken delivery of the car experienced any mechanical issues with the lift (I recall reading a post mentioning an indicator light went off while the lift was being deployed, but didn't affect it's operation). I understand on 997.2's it's quite expensive to fix and mechanical issues were not uncommon, but also was under the impression from a source that I cannot recall that the lift was redesigned. Sorry if this was covered elsewhere.
Not to throw this off topic too much, but has anyone that has already taken delivery of the car experienced any mechanical issues with the lift (I recall reading a post mentioning an indicator light went off while the lift was being deployed, but didn't affect it's operation). I understand on 997.2's it's quite expensive to fix and mechanical issues were not uncommon, but also was under the impression from a source that I cannot recall that the lift was redesigned. Sorry if this was covered elsewhere.
Those are the reasons I passed on it. I think I read on pistonheads that the lift is the same as on the 997 version, but who knows if that's correct.
11-19-2014, 02:04 AM
we are on the same side.
