Brunnhoelzl Jacks
11-06-2014, 12:46 AM
#16
Nordschleife Master
You seem to be confused with Jack and Jack stands. There are different tools that work together. That killer lightweight jack is $1200.00. I am happy with my heavy AC Hydraulics jack. The stands are $600.00 for all four points.
11-06-2014, 02:26 AM
#18
Nordschleife Master
11-06-2014, 03:48 AM
#20
Race Director
No Mike,I do not have jackstands that utilize the jacking point as the jack. I have Harbor Freight Pittsburg jacks-a steel one and a low profile aluminum. I have Black Jack 3 ton jackstands and 6 ton Pittsburg.
I invest a lot of money in high quality hand tools like SnapOn or Mac. Also in air guns and 780FT/pounds Ingersoll-Rand electric power tools. I have factory scan tools for most german brands I own. Because IMO that's where you need quality for working on cars.
Jacks or jackstands are there to lift the car and then support it,there's no brain surgery,a cheap one will do the same job as an expensive one. But a cheap socket will most likely strip a nut,as opposed to a SnapOn that will pull it out without a problem.
My point is,invest where it really matters...
I invest a lot of money in high quality hand tools like SnapOn or Mac. Also in air guns and 780FT/pounds Ingersoll-Rand electric power tools. I have factory scan tools for most german brands I own. Because IMO that's where you need quality for working on cars.
Jacks or jackstands are there to lift the car and then support it,there's no brain surgery,a cheap one will do the same job as an expensive one. But a cheap socket will most likely strip a nut,as opposed to a SnapOn that will pull it out without a problem.
My point is,invest where it really matters...
I only asked the questions because you wrote that you had a different jack and jack stands that "do the same thing" as the Jackpoint stands, which I still believe are unique in the fact that they allow one to use the exact same (and proper) points on the frame to both lift and then support the car. Placing jack stands in any other location risks damage which is why the Jackpoint stands, like the quality tools that you purchase, are worth the money to me.
11-06-2014, 07:37 AM
#21
Nordschleife Master
Fair enough, Nick....I understand. And you obviously have an appreciation for quality tools. I only asked the questions because you wrote that you had a different jack and jack stands that "do the same thing" as the Jackpoint stands, which I still believe are unique in the fact that they allow one to use the exact same (and proper) points on the frame to both lift and then support the car. Placing jack stands in any other location risks damage which is why the Jackpoint stands, like the quality tools that you purchase, are worth the money to me.
11-06-2014, 07:56 AM
#22
Three Wheelin'
Umm yes you can. 993, 964 and any other metzger case engine is designed to be lifted by the engine. It's in the Porsche tech manuals and Porsche sells adapters to make it easier without mating the case.
11-06-2014, 08:09 AM
#23
Nordschleife Master
Either way,I haven't used an impact,I've only used a breaker bar.
Watch the procedure in a video that member paver has posted a while back in case you've missed it :
11-06-2014, 08:18 AM
#24
Nordschleife Master
As long as you're comfortable and Porsche says so,go ahead,I don't see a problem. I choose not to...
11-06-2014, 10:54 AM
#25
Rennlist Member
Since it was mentioned, is there a power tool that can replace the giant breaker bar and torque wrench?
11-06-2014, 07:25 PM
#26
Rennlist Member
No Mike,I do not have jackstands that utilize the jacking point as the jack. I have Harbor Freight Pittsburg jacks-a steel one and a low profile aluminum. I have Black Jack 3 ton jackstands and 6 ton Pittsburg.
I invest a lot of money in high quality hand tools like SnapOn or Mac. Also in air guns and 780FT/pounds Ingersoll-Rand electric power tools. I have factory scan tools for most german brands I own. Because IMO that's where you need quality for working on cars.
Jacks or jackstands are there to lift the car and then support it,there's no brain surgery,a cheap one will do the same job as an expensive one. But a cheap socket will most likely strip a nut,as opposed to a SnapOn that will pull it out without a problem.
My point is,invest where it really matters...
I invest a lot of money in high quality hand tools like SnapOn or Mac. Also in air guns and 780FT/pounds Ingersoll-Rand electric power tools. I have factory scan tools for most german brands I own. Because IMO that's where you need quality for working on cars.
Jacks or jackstands are there to lift the car and then support it,there's no brain surgery,a cheap one will do the same job as an expensive one. But a cheap socket will most likely strip a nut,as opposed to a SnapOn that will pull it out without a problem.
My point is,invest where it really matters...
11-06-2014, 07:32 PM
#27
Rennlist Member
unfortunately, not tall enough to comfortably get at a 997 trans lube change, clutch bleed, etc.
I asked John at JP to try to extend height, but?
11-06-2014, 08:16 PM
#28
Nordschleife Master
Jackstands are jackstands,they are made of highly durable steel. I have 100% confidence to get under the car with them. You just need to make sure they are placed properly.
Last edited by neanicu; 08-31-2016 at 09:00 AM.
11-06-2014, 08:51 PM
#29
Race Director
Phil, they work great for oil changes in the GT3. Plenty of clearance for catch pans and to access drain plugs and filter.
11-06-2014, 09:58 PM
#30
Rennlist Member
^^
my point I am trying to make to those reading this tread that may be in the market for a new jack/jack stand is-PLEASE do not scrimp on any safety tool/product both inside and outside your car. Buy the best quality/safety product...you only have your health.
BTW, I use an AC 4400lb jack w/ two other back-up units (emergency), and Esco 6,000lb stands.
^
Mike, good info on the 991, and again thanks for your great DIY oil/filt change!
my point I am trying to make to those reading this tread that may be in the market for a new jack/jack stand is-PLEASE do not scrimp on any safety tool/product both inside and outside your car. Buy the best quality/safety product...you only have your health.
BTW, I use an AC 4400lb jack w/ two other back-up units (emergency), and Esco 6,000lb stands.
^
Mike, good info on the 991, and again thanks for your great DIY oil/filt change!