Buy Back
04-16-2014, 11:22 AM
#16
Race Director
I always decline to sign the arbitration document (allowed in TX) when I buy a new car. Check this out and weep:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8104...new-video.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8104...new-video.html
04-16-2014, 01:54 PM
#18
Race Director
You must be kidding to think the '14 GT3 will be a collectible
Will be viewed as the early 996's are, a work-in-progress for Porsche, and value will follow similar path.
Allan, its not worth the worry. Your car will not be back until June at the earliest. Life is too short--take the money and enjoy something else. You can always come back for a '15 when (if) they straighten the problems out. I feel the same way about Porsche, from my GT3 & Cayenne experiences, could only imagine the 991 GT3 mess.
Bill
Will be viewed as the early 996's are, a work-in-progress for Porsche, and value will follow similar path.
Allan, its not worth the worry. Your car will not be back until June at the earliest. Life is too short--take the money and enjoy something else. You can always come back for a '15 when (if) they straighten the problems out. I feel the same way about Porsche, from my GT3 & Cayenne experiences, could only imagine the 991 GT3 mess.
Bill
As for taking the money and "enjoying something else" that's fair advice, although I'd suggest that having no skin in the game makes that advice much easier to give. It also makes me wonder if you've driven the car. Anyway, I am curious as to what you think "something else" would be.
04-16-2014, 02:40 PM
#19
I have a problem with the attitude that only those with "skin in the game", and only those who have driven the car are qualified to give advice. There have been enough reviews and anecdotal reports that everyone knows the car is an epic drive. I'd also argue that those without the burden of current ownership are in the best position to give advice, as they are without bias and don't have to constantly defend the car. I think "stakeholders" are the last to give advice for obvious reasons.
I seem one of the few, if only owners, that agrees that most people would be better off passing on the 2014 and just get a 2015. The hilarious thing about current owners saying that there is nothing else to drive is that they don't have anything to drive. As the old saying goes, a car not driven is just another car.
I seem one of the few, if only owners, that agrees that most people would be better off passing on the 2014 and just get a 2015. The hilarious thing about current owners saying that there is nothing else to drive is that they don't have anything to drive. As the old saying goes, a car not driven is just another car.
04-16-2014, 02:45 PM
#20
Instructor
honestly, I'd hold onto it. Most likely you have other toys to play with in the mean time. It's my own pure speculation, but I have a feeling that the '14 GT3 will be a collectible car down the road as long as it's as good as has been advertised (from a performance aspect). Think about it, it's the first year of a new engine design and even though the '14's will have replaced engines, they'll all be like that and it's from the factory, so I don't see a problem with that as the numbers will correspond with the cars in the paperwork. Also, many firsts for the '14, first year of PDK (like it or hate it, it's hear to stay most likely and the benefits are undeniable, even if they do take some of the fun out of rowing through the gears), as well as being the first year for rear wheel steering which is sure to be a watershed moment that was a huge performance advancement. Take all of that into consideration with the very low numbers of the 2014 model year due to the stop sale and I see this as a future collectible. I know it must suck during the stop sale and Porsche certainly hasn't been very communicative (at least in our community here on Rennlist), but they're German, they have a problem, they say nothing until it's fixed and then offer you a car that is incredible. Here in the US we've gotten too soft and too accustomed to Valet Parking and a Valet lifestyle and expect everyone to jump at our feet. Truth is, I guarantee once the fix is done and people start receiving their GT3's back, people will forget about this entire fiasco and start raving about how good the 991 GT3's really are and then the RS lists will be overflowing with people who want to throw their money at it. My advice, baton down the hatches, loosen your tie and wait it out, I really think it'll be worth it! That's just my $.02.
04-16-2014, 02:49 PM
#21
I got no pushback what so ever when discussing a buyback. They gave me the impression that they don't care either way.
04-16-2014, 02:54 PM
#22
Are you selling your car back to PCNA?
04-16-2014, 03:55 PM
#25
Burning Brakes
04-16-2014, 03:57 PM
#26
I have a different opinion, with due respect. The car will have to be titled as a "manufacturer buy back" later, aka Lemon. Porsche, or any other car maker for that matter, would want to minimize the number of such cars.
04-16-2014, 04:05 PM
#27
You know Sam, you may be right, but I think they are sincere. When discussing the options with Ian, he said, and I quote, they just want me to be happy. We spoke at length, and discussed all three options, and he said Porsche recognized that everyone was in a different situation, and they were cool with whatever we decided. He didn't seem like a bull****ter, I really don't they care either way.
Anyway you cut it though, they are willing to commit to a buyback, with full payment in 2-3 weeks, so they mean it. I guess that's the ultimate proof.
Anyway you cut it though, they are willing to commit to a buyback, with full payment in 2-3 weeks, so they mean it. I guess that's the ultimate proof.
04-16-2014, 04:09 PM
#29
^ I see and agree. Think more about it then. The car is awesome and I really have no idea whether it will deprecaite much or not. I am aware of all the opinions out there but none convince me either way. I am very willing to take the chance, even though I will trade it in for the RS.
04-16-2014, 04:10 PM
#30
Like a couple others, this is also a subject I had never taken into consideration.
Thanks.