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Old 08-16-2013, 01:32 PM
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The 1972 E25 Bracq Turbo concept car that's seen in the background brings back memories from the auto show 40 years ago. Mind blowing for a Junior High kid back then. That car is one of only two that BMW made.

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more info

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=877447

Old 08-16-2013, 01:47 PM
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If 70K euro it will probably cost 70K $ before options in the US,which is a good price!
3295 lb in not bad either...
Take that in 6 speed and you have a winner!
Old 08-16-2013, 01:50 PM
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Holy **** that thing is hideous.
Old 08-16-2013, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
If 70K euro it will probably cost 70K $ before options in the US,which is a good price!
3295 lb in not bad either...
Take that in 6 speed and you have a winner!
70k euros is $91,000, i'm guessing it will be in 80's
Old 08-16-2013, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by buzztt
70k euros is $91,000, i'm guessing it will be in 80's
im guess in mid 70's before options.
Old 08-16-2013, 02:31 PM
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I agree. Around $70s to start then if purpose is as a DD (easily) $10K in options, not including the carbon ceramics, of course...
Old 08-16-2013, 02:33 PM
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do bmw usually sell for that much less in the US ? i know its always less but 20 grand less seems like a lot
Old 08-16-2013, 02:38 PM
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@buzztt --the e92 M3 started at just over $60K (MSRP) for the 6-speed version...
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Here's a link to a Car and Driver writeup on the M4 Concept...

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/bmw...-and-info-news

My guess is that their estimate of starting just a bit over $60K is low. There will be a price increase, as this car seems to have so much more being offered on it than on the e92 M3. But, it might have a base price that falls shy of $70K for optics / consumer psychology. But, loaded (excl. carbon brakes), I would expect the car to be close to $80K. With the brakes, and it's probably almost a $90K car.

The article mentions that it will be have electric steering...will be interesting to see how BMW's version feels...
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BMW's electric steering is crap! It feels like you're steering a jet-ski without throttle.
Hopefully this will be better...
Old 08-16-2013, 03:07 PM
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@neanicu -- It's amazing how BMW M has mis-stepped with recent new cars. The F10 M5 comes to mind...
Old 08-16-2013, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 0Q991
@neanicu -- It's amazing how BMW M has mis-stepped with recent new cars. The F10 M5 comes to mind...
They've only grown heavier and have gone further away from what the M badge stands for...

I drove M3,M5 and M6. Nice cars,but for 120K what the new M6 costs,I'll take a plane old Jane Carrera or even an Exige at almost half price.
Old 08-16-2013, 03:29 PM
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To me, their M cars are great for DD. Can't speak for anything beyond that.
Old 08-16-2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by frayed
Having trouble believing 3300 lbs.

Front fascia below headlights already in desperate need of a re-design.

Using history as a guide, it will be a great street car providing great sounds and comfort, but will disappoint on track other than one fast hot lap. Will need a lot of mods to get it to trackworthy and those mods can add up quickly and destroy resale value.
+1

The M6 is even worse... I couldn't believe how fast the owner's day was over at my last track day.


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