Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rear Seats

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-01-2013, 02:12 AM
  #1  
NJ-GT
Addict
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
NJ-GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Everglades
Posts: 6,583
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default Rear Seats

VW has added 77 lbs to the 991 GT3, and still there are no rear seats.

I understand that even without rear seats, the fact of bringing an automatic transmission will be a sales success.

However, there is enough space in the back for additional passengers, and a rear seats option would be magnificent.

The rear seats in the 997 and 991 add just 25 lbs, and this weight addition can be offset with PCCB. Porsche could force the optional rear seats to require PCCB to keep the performance focus on this amazing new hyper car.

Rear seats are already certified for the 991 Carrera, C4 (wide body) and Turbo (extra wider body), so the GT3 could take advantage of such privilege.

This could help resale values as well, to offset the anticipated depreciation for the PDK-only slush-box.
Old 08-01-2013, 03:01 AM
  #2  
RobSpyder
Instructor
 
RobSpyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

21s and rear seats? As you point out, there are already a slew of 911 variants to suit your needs.

No more softening of the GT3 please.
Old 08-01-2013, 03:12 AM
  #3  
Mike in CA
Race Director
 
Mike in CA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: North Bay Area, CA
Posts: 11,969
Received 127 Likes on 67 Posts
Default

He's just trying to get a rise.....
Old 08-01-2013, 03:53 AM
  #4  
RobSpyder
Instructor
 
RobSpyder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Ah. That joke had a lot of letters in it
Old 08-01-2013, 04:32 AM
  #5  
Macca
Rennlist Member
 
Macca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 14,140
Received 14 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by NJ-GT
VW has added 77 lbs to the 991 GT3, and still there are no rear seats.

I understand that even without rear seats, the fact of bringing an automatic transmission will be a sales success.

However, there is enough space in the back for additional passengers, and a rear seats option would be magnificent.

The rear seats in the 997 and 991 add just 25 lbs, and this weight addition can be offset with PCCB. Porsche could force the optional rear seats to require PCCB to keep the performance focus on this amazing new hyper car.

Rear seats are already certified for the 991 Carrera, C4 (wide body) and Turbo (extra wider body), so the GT3 could take advantage of such privilege.

This could help resale values as well, to offset the anticipated depreciation for the PDK-only slush-box.
Ill take the bait!

Quite a number of the GT3 in our market were converted to rear seat. I had one with such 99996.1 GT3) as original owner wanted to take his young boys to track days. Heres a another below just gone on the market (997.2 GT3). I believe 991 GT3 also will be possible and the seller of the car below is already talking with the dealer about doing the same with his 991 GT3. It looks like it will probably be feasible.

At least two of the first four 991 GT3 in NZ will be installing Recaro Pole Position for track days for a savings estimated at over 80lbs. Shame you guys in the states cant do that. It brings the gross weight down to under 997.2 GT3.

Also two of the four new 991 GT3 owners have ordered the Cobra 0358 rear park sensor aftermarket system for install when the car arrives. Both are previous multiple GT3 owners who had the system fitted to previous GT3 and with the 991 are intending to do double the annual mileage of their previous GT3s by using for a few days each week for the work commute.

The new car lends itself to a much wider spread of use which was the complaint of the old car for those here that owned it. Its no fun keeping such a wonderful car in the garage 5 days out of 7....
Attached Images   
Old 08-01-2013, 06:47 AM
  #6  
911rox
Rennlist Member
 
911rox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Regretfully not at a track... :(
Posts: 2,571
Received 24 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Just an observation, those rear seat cushions are installed wayyyyy to low and would be down right dangerous in an accident... No upper support would mean any rear passenger who isn't a young child (ie really small) would end up whip lashed or with fractured vertebrae... That car should have had the brackets installed correctly in the same spot as other 911 variants or should have them removed before sale...
Old 08-01-2013, 08:01 AM
  #7  
Macca
Rennlist Member
 
Macca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 14,140
Received 14 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Hi There. Im not really sure about all that. They have to pass compliance and they did. They dont look any more dangerous than the rear seats in my 993 to be honest (actually they look quite a bit more spacious). Heres another from a 997.1 GT3 recently for sale over here. last time I counted there were 4 x 997.1/2 GT3 In Auckland with them (from total of around 24 sold from 2006-2010).

Many first time owners of these cars when they are new want to take their kids to events.
Attached Images  
Old 08-01-2013, 09:57 AM
  #8  
911rox
Rennlist Member
 
911rox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Regretfully not at a track... :(
Posts: 2,571
Received 24 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

For comparison, the rear seats in the 911 turbo. Huge height difference. I would suggest that after impact, the lack of upper body and head support will result in significant injury with those other sear backs... I know which I'd rather any child or friend of mine sitting in... just saying...
Attached Images  
Old 08-01-2013, 10:34 AM
  #9  
aussie jimmy
Rennlist Member
 
aussie jimmy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: sydney
Posts: 6,222
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

don't worry, chris; in nz they do anything you want if you add in a case of woodstock n cola
Old 08-01-2013, 10:51 AM
  #10  
Montesquieu
Advanced
 
Montesquieu's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Anyone know of professionals in the US - and particularly Texas - who would install a GT3 rear seat addition? I'm not competent enough to attempt it myself.
Old 08-01-2013, 10:52 AM
  #11  
frayed
Race Car
 
frayed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,972
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm waiting for the targa option.
Old 08-01-2013, 11:56 AM
  #12  
consolidated
Drifting
 
consolidated's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,587
Received 11 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

I'm waiting for third row seating, sunroof and blind-spot detection for the sneaky new Camaros coming to your next DE.
Old 08-01-2013, 11:57 AM
  #13  
0Q991
Drifting
 
0Q991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,743
Received 8 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

X6-like 4 door coupe SUV?
Old 08-01-2013, 12:16 PM
  #14  
-eztrader-
Rennlist Member
 
-eztrader-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,941
Received 251 Likes on 136 Posts
Default

Where would people put all the groceries after a nice leisurely drive in D mode to the grocery store?
Old 08-01-2013, 12:21 PM
  #15  
reidry
Three Wheelin'
 
reidry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Cocoa, FL
Posts: 1,633
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Third row seating, blind spot detection?

Where's the headlight mounted machine guns, smoke screen system, and ejection seat?

Ryan


Quick Reply: Rear Seats



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:30 AM.