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PCCBs, the car is for street driving only.
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PCCBs, and I'll track it that way too.
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22.46%
PCCB, but buying steel rotors or system for track.
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6.68%
Steel brakes, it's the way I roll.
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PCCB or Steel on your 991 GT3?

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Old 07-06-2014, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bacura
Although not a GT3 I have PCCB and its my DD. I love them. No brake dust. I don't find them grabby at all. Great feel. I'm happy with my choice. I don't track my car so replacement rotors were not an issue.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I don't mean to revive an old thread, but for those who have the PCCBs, how are they on the streets? Are they too grabby? Thanks.
No squeal, no dust, no grab, great feel, cold or hot. The best brakes I've ever experienced on a street car. No bull. Worth the price? Your decision but I have no regrets.
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Mike, have you actually had an opportunity to do a track day yet with your car?
Old 07-06-2014, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I don't mean to revive an old thread, but for those who have the PCCBs, how are they on the streets? Are they too grabby? Thanks.
Yeah I have them on my TTS and you get used to them pretty quick. When I switch back and forth between my macan turbo, the steel brakes seem to take forever to stop.

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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Mike, have you actually had an opportunity to do a track day yet with your car?
Unfortunately no, Alex. I was about 2/3 of the way through break-in when things went to hell. Love the PCCB's on the street; looking forward to the first autocross with them. The car won't see heavy track use so, for me, PCCB's were a viable choice.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
No squeal, no dust, no grab, great feel, cold or hot. The best brakes I've ever experienced on a street car. No bull. Worth the price? Your decision but I have no regrets.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by jlee504
Yeah I have them on my TTS and you get used to them pretty quick. When I switch back and forth between my macan turbo, the steel brakes seem to take forever to stop.

Jeff
Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Unfortunately no, Alex. I was about 2/3 of the way through break-in when things went to hell. Love the PCCB's on the street; looking forward to the first autocross with them. The car won't see heavy track use so, for me, PCCB's were a viable choice.
Since this thread has been restarted, thought I would jump and see if anyone knows how much the PCCBs wear when used "lightly" on the track. I've put 60,000 miles on a 997.2 GT3 equipped with PCCBs and no discernible wear on the rotors; I also have 32,000 miles on a 2012 Cayenne TT with PCCBs and no wear on the rotors that I can detect. I'd like to use my new 991 TTS (sorry I gave up on the GT3 I had on order with its latest November delivery) for very light track duty - high speed cruising really, no racing, 6 to 8 times per year, maybe 10 to 12 hours per year. Has anyone had any experience with PCCBs used in this manner?

Priced out with my Porsche dealer new steel rotor and calipers - $10K, price for 4 new PCCB rotors about $20K. Would like to stick with the PCCBs but price has to be a consideration.
Old 07-08-2014, 12:23 AM
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I did not get the PCCBs but the word is that they are a much improved and if you have had no issues before I could not see how this improved version would not fair equal to better.

But - in these cases time will only tell and I do not know how track-tested they are this early
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Originally Posted by jlee504
Yeah I have them on my TTS and you get used to them pretty quick. When I switch back and forth between my macan turbo, the steel brakes seem to take forever to stop.

Jeff
Again, PCCB does NOT allow you to stop any better than iron. PCCB is lighter and heat/fade resistant. That's it. Your perceived difference in stopping power is either in your head, or because you are comparing stopping power between a 911 turbo and a macan.

Originally Posted by NMM991
Since this thread has been restarted, thought I would jump and see if anyone knows how much the PCCBs wear when used "lightly" on the track. I've put 60,000 miles on a 997.2 GT3 equipped with PCCBs and no discernible wear on the rotors; I also have 32,000 miles on a 2012 Cayenne TT with PCCBs and no wear on the rotors that I can detect. I'd like to use my new 991 TTS (sorry I gave up on the GT3 I had on order with its latest November delivery) for very light track duty - high speed cruising really, no racing, 6 to 8 times per year, maybe 10 to 12 hours per year. Has anyone had any experience with PCCBs used in this manner?

Priced out with my Porsche dealer new steel rotor and calipers - $10K, price for 4 new PCCB rotors about $20K. Would like to stick with the PCCBs but price has to be a consideration.
Given your prior history with PCCB and 'light' track use, I'm sure that the new PCCB will work just fine.
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Again, PCCB does NOT allow you to stop any better than iron. PCCB is lighter and heat/fade resistant. That's it. Your perceived difference in stopping power is either in your head, or because you are comparing stopping power between a 911 turbo and a macan.



Given your prior history with PCCB and 'light' track use, I'm sure that the new PCCB will work just fine.
It seems test results have indicated shorter stopping distance as well. What makes you disagree with this?
Old 07-08-2014, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by az audi
Originally Posted by orthojoe
Again, PCCB does NOT allow you to stop any better than iron. PCCB is lighter and heat/fade resistant. That's it. Your perceived difference in stopping power is either in your head, or because you are comparing stopping power between a 911 turbo and a macan.



Given your prior history with PCCB and 'light' track use, I'm sure that the new PCCB will work just fine.
It seems test results have indicated shorter stopping distance as well. What makes you disagree with this?
Because stopping distance is related more towards the tires than brakes.
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^This
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Originally Posted by SamFromTX
^This
Sam -- Are you still running the stock PSC2s?
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Originally Posted by 0Q991
Sam -- Are you still running the stock PSC2s?
Yes, I have a new set on. I also have two fronts on order. I plan to replace the fronts after 2-3 track days then I'll replace the whole set with PSS for the rest of July and August.


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