Killing the PDK
06-03-2013, 10:46 PM
#151
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If the previous owners of GT3's wanted PDK-S over Manual transmissions and were concerned with shaving tenths of a second on the track -- they'd all be driving GTR's instead. Porsche is selling the NAME of their Motorsport car to a new market - the well-off masses. Will some former GT3 buyers decide they could go along with this new faster package -- of course. Will some of them prefer it? -- of course. ...but if that's the case the old GT3 probably wasn't the car for them in the first place (assuming their circumstances haven't changed)...
06-03-2013, 10:55 PM
#152
Rennlist Member
This is a pretty example of an automatic in action. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Straight cut gears whine nicely! The "amplified" hand brake for rotation is probably not such a good idea on a street car. 
06-04-2013, 12:36 AM
#153
Rennlist Member
If the previous owners of GT3's wanted PDK-S over Manual transmissions and were concerned with shaving tenths of a second on the track -- they'd all be driving GTR's instead. Porsche is selling the NAME of their Motorsport car to a new market - the well-off masses. Will some former GT3 buyers decide they could go along with this new faster package -- of course. Will some of them prefer it? -- of course. ...but if that's the case the old GT3 probably wasn't the car for them in the first place (assuming their circumstances haven't changed)...
06-04-2013, 01:02 AM
#154
...or a VW employee
Last edited by destaccado; 06-04-2013 at 01:17 AM.
06-04-2013, 01:03 AM
#155
06-07-2013, 02:55 PM
#156
Rennlist Member
Lets be honest with ourselves.
No one on this forum (or only a few people at most) has even driven the 991 GT3.
Thinking that you want a manual without even trying the PDK is just plane short sighted. As far as what Porsche has shown us, the GT3 PDK is down right fabulous.
If after you try it and just can't come to terms with it, get a techie to install a "clutch" pedal that your lazy left foot can play with and pretend to have a clutch. That way you can have it both ways!
No one on this forum (or only a few people at most) has even driven the 991 GT3.
Thinking that you want a manual without even trying the PDK is just plane short sighted. As far as what Porsche has shown us, the GT3 PDK is down right fabulous.
If after you try it and just can't come to terms with it, get a techie to install a "clutch" pedal that your lazy left foot can play with and pretend to have a clutch. That way you can have it both ways!
06-07-2013, 06:20 PM
#158
Three Wheelin'
Didn't know which Forum to post this .... but TopGear gets clever by making fun of the PDK. "Slip into the 911, and that huge price premium is instantly explained. Our test car boasts a cutting-edge, state-of-the-art technology found on only top-end exotica: a manual gearbox" In fact, TopGear suggest we all should be driving a Boxster with a MT. Good article to read.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/jag...ear-2013-06-07
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/jag...ear-2013-06-07
06-07-2013, 06:49 PM
#159
Race Director
Didn't know which Forum to post this .... but TopGear gets clever by making fun of the PDK. "Slip into the 911, and that huge price premium is instantly explained. Our test car boasts a cutting-edge, state-of-the-art technology found on only top-end exotica: a manual gearbox" In fact, TopGear suggest we all should be driving a Boxster with a MT. Good article to read.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/jag...ear-2013-06-07
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/jag...ear-2013-06-07
06-07-2013, 08:27 PM
#161
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Amen. My wife has a 2012 Boxster S and when she lets me drive it, I am blown away by what a fine handling car it is. I have been fortunately enough to own and drive many fine sport cars and I do not find any of them better in handling including the Carrera GT.
06-08-2013, 08:45 PM
#162
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A word on Chris Harris: so far I liked him also a lot..but two things:
1) he praised the new boxster so much that I drove it - was a nice car, good looking..but definately lacks serious power. Im talking about the S...this car is certainly not as overwhelming as he mentioned it to be.
1) he praised the new boxster so much that I drove it - was a nice car, good looking..but definately lacks serious power. Im talking about the S...this car is certainly not as overwhelming as he mentioned it to be.
2) His cars: fine - bought a 4.0 - that went up in value..good decision..then bought a 599..probably lost a big chunk of money there..next he will end up with a GTr, then a boxster and then at the end with a chevy. I know Im exxagerating..but unless he buys back a 4.0 or 458 he certainly went down the ladder. Probably with each car he will have/own now, he will loose money.until its completely gone - somthing that didnt happen with the 4.0. What Im trying to say, Harris maybe a real car nut...but probably not the best investor....but hey..Im asking for too much..
..but hey..Im asking for too much..I've seen it on this forum and seems to underlie your post; people are upset that he sold the legendary, otherworldly 4.0 for a mere fiat boulevard cruiser.
Maybe he knew the new GT3 was going to be faster? Or maybe he felt the 4.0 too compromised to truly enjoy every day? He wanted less boy racer? Something his hot chick would like to ride in?
Who knows. Not relevant IMO.
06-10-2013, 07:47 PM
#163
Sithot wrote :
This is a fabulous ride, very solid guts to do "that" just a few inches of all these wood stoppers.
By the way, Sithot, this is not an automatic, but simply a (great) sequential gear box (You keep the (right) pedal to the metal, you pull (hard), and it shift up. To shift down, if you "know", (and be in the right rpm) you do not clutch and push (hard) to gear down, if you do not know for sure, ..than, you better clutch to gear down, because being out of the correct rpm, in such type of case, will send you to say hello to the tree extremely rapidly.
Btw, I would think that the same gearbox with paddle command, would enable this (great) driver (with big guts) to be even more efficient.
Super great video, kudos.
But again, I'm sure that I would love SPORT PDK, even more than I love real sequential gearbox on tracks, but, frankly, on open roads, where you do not have much to do, PDK is for me, simply a fun remover:
On tracks : YES, big times, BUT PDK on open roads : NO-NO-NO,
..That the way I look at it.
This is a pretty example of an automatic in action. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Straight cut gears whine nicely! The "amplified" hand brake for rotation is probably not such a good idea on a street car.
By the way, Sithot, this is not an automatic, but simply a (great) sequential gear box (You keep the (right) pedal to the metal, you pull (hard), and it shift up. To shift down, if you "know", (and be in the right rpm) you do not clutch and push (hard) to gear down, if you do not know for sure, ..than, you better clutch to gear down, because being out of the correct rpm, in such type of case, will send you to say hello to the tree extremely rapidly.
Btw, I would think that the same gearbox with paddle command, would enable this (great) driver (with big guts) to be even more efficient.
Super great video, kudos.
But again, I'm sure that I would love SPORT PDK, even more than I love real sequential gearbox on tracks, but, frankly, on open roads, where you do not have much to do, PDK is for me, simply a fun remover:
On tracks : YES, big times, BUT PDK on open roads : NO-NO-NO,
..That the way I look at it.
Last edited by GVA-SFO; 06-10-2013 at 08:50 PM.
06-11-2013, 02:37 AM
#164
Race Director
This is a pretty example of an automatic in action. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Straight cut gears whine nicely! The "amplified" hand brake for rotation is probably not such a good idea on a street car.
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LqVUwLD3_c&feature=player_embedded
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LqVUwLD3_c&feature=player_embedded
