991 GT3 sans rear wing???
03-19-2013, 02:38 AM
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03-19-2013, 10:13 PM
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Manifold. No offence meant here, but this is the bit I dont get. You can afford to contemplate a 140k usd optioned 991 GT3 (obviously or you wouldnt be taking part on this board) but you cant justify buying a 60k usd 2003 996.2 Cup car and trailer and a 60k usd 997S to get to work in? If you are tracking your car 50 times a year then you are serious enough to step up to a dedicated track car. Ive owned a 996.1 GT3 and a 993RS and as nice as they were for an occasionally weekend track session they were not anywhere near what a dedicated track car would be. I think we are asking too much now of the platform. We are a small group and the group Porsche are primarily entertaining are wanting something quite different....
03-19-2013, 10:35 PM
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Manifold. No offence meant here, but this is the bit I dont get. You can afford to contemplate a 140k usd optioned 991 GT3 (obviously or you wouldnt be taking part on this board) but you cant justify buying a 60k usd 2003 996.2 Cup car and trailer and a 60k usd 997S to get to work in? If you are tracking your car 50 times a year then you are serious enough to step up to a dedicated track car. Ive owned a 996.1 GT3 and a 993RS and as nice as they were for an occasionally weekend track session they were not anywhere near what a dedicated track car would be. I think we are asking too much now of the platform. We are a small group and the group Porsche are primarily entertaining are wanting something quite different....
03-20-2013, 10:50 AM
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Manifold. No offence meant here, but this is the bit I dont get. You can afford to contemplate a 140k usd optioned 991 GT3 (obviously or you wouldnt be taking part on this board) but you cant justify buying a 60k usd 2003 996.2 Cup car and trailer and a 60k usd 997S to get to work in? If you are tracking your car 50 times a year then you are serious enough to step up to a dedicated track car. Ive owned a 996.1 GT3 and a 993RS and as nice as they were for an occasionally weekend track session they were not anywhere near what a dedicated track car would be. I think we are asking too much now of the platform. We are a small group and the group Porsche are primarily entertaining are wanting something quite different....
And that, of course. But wait, it has a Hooligan option where you can declutch the car and make it go sideways be flooring it while letting the clutch out!! Pfew, they fixed it at the last moment and saved the car. genius
03-21-2013, 01:36 PM
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I will take as much power as I can get short of going Turbo (I will take the extra $$ and put it down on a retirement home in SW Florida), as much grip as I can get and 9k RPM is sweet music to my somewhat hearing damaged ears (likely from too much gun play and Marshall amped Les Pauls in my past).
In my original post I alluded to " little or no track use" and perhaps I could expand on that a bit. It is not my plan to be a track rat (meant in the nicest possible way) given that retirement will have several time sucks that would prohibit me from fully commiting to that and I am a commitment type gal. For me it is be the best I can or it is just play. I will have an occasional foray on a few tracks I have admired in the past (Watkins Glen is a place I have been to many times, still remember F1 there in the mid 70'5 IIRC) if it is possible for a competent nobody like my self but for enjoyment more so than outright lap times. COTA is a spectacular looking track and just so happens to be a short ride from big bro's home in Austin. Learning an automobiles operating envelope is best learned in a controlled environment and with equipment specific skilled instruction. I plan on on doing so, not to eak out every last nano second of performance but to get the nature of the beast ingrained in my muscle memory. Right now my default setting is rear bias AWD and I do REALLY dig rally driving.
Getting too involved with tracking will get competitive urgings lit and like a magnesium fire they are hard to put out and can lead to poor judgement, a prang, or a beyond oh spit "moment". It would also be beyond a pisser to get 'helped" off the track by someone elses ability exceeding their skill or good judgement. I realize this from past experiences in motocross, shooting sports and general beating of the cars of youth. Fortunately no one was harmed but for someone rapidly approaching (or possibly already arriving at) old fartdom I do recognize my limitations or at least what I am willing to set for limits.
I indeed have considered a C4S and not ruled it out but while 400 hp is wonnerful closer to 500hp is more better doncha reckon?
A 997 Turbo S is a spectacular vehicle and as you may have discerned prices for a CPO TTS are depreciating ever near a decently equipped 991 C4S or for that matter the GT3. However it IS a used vehicle and I am preferring new for this go round. The 991 Turbo will be, I am sure mind blowing, but pretty much a non starter given my future plans unless something really lucky were to happen. I don't plan for luck but for what I CAN make happen.
I do appreciate ALL input and respect the manner presented and certainly don't take any offense at comments and as well do not mean any by expressing my views, wants or whatever else.
Be be safe all and I look forward to hearing more on the subject. Love the pix that have been posted too! Please keep them coming.
Patty
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03-21-2013, 01:59 PM
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It used to be that people bought GT3's then traded them in for Turbos when the 'involvement' associated with a GT3 became too involving. Don't see that happening this time. Even though the OP doesn't want a wing, the wing will sell lots of GT3s.
03-21-2013, 03:15 PM
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03-21-2013, 07:50 PM
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I posted here in 2010 or 2011 after running laps at Thunderhill with the wing off. The car is perfectly stable and well mannered. That track and that car mean about 130 mph top speed (into aero speeds, but only just) and the car didn't skip a beat.
There's also some pics of the rump of the car beside other 997's to show it in pseudo "duck tail" configuration. I prefer it aesthetically, it's far less pretentious, there's no risk of vandalism or theft (the wing can be removed with an electric screwdriver, gone in 60 seconds) and there's visibility out the rearview mirror.
There's also some pics of the rump of the car beside other 997's to show it in pseudo "duck tail" configuration. I prefer it aesthetically, it's far less pretentious, there's no risk of vandalism or theft (the wing can be removed with an electric screwdriver, gone in 60 seconds) and there's visibility out the rearview mirror.
03-21-2013, 08:26 PM
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C2S with powerkit, PDK, PDCC+PASM, and sport design aerokit ... done and no messing around changing decklids which dont mate properly with the underlying decklid etc...
done... next question?
done... next question?
03-21-2013, 08:30 PM
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