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Old 03-14-2013, 01:31 AM
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I cant help but comment on the EVO Andreas Preuninger991 Gt3 'interview' over the 991 Gt3. It reminded me of the glowing 997 3.8 Gt3 RS interview walking around the grey and red RS. I went and found my 'old' 2010 magazines and i quote the May 2010 Top Gear magazine where the white 3.8 GT3 RS is tested. I quote Andreas in this magazine " Grandma's can use paddles. They are not challenging'. What has changed between 2010 and 2013? I bought a new 997 Gt3 Rs 3.8 that is grey and red and was surprised to hear that it was so soon 'old news' with the release of the 4 litre and this too is now old news with the 991 gt3. I fast learnt when the 4 litre came on to the market that we will be told whatever we need to be told. As addicts to the brand we will far too easily lap it up.
This morning at 5am I took the RS for a morning drive. Not too extreme but enough for it to dawn on me that the 991 Gt3 may be a great drive at 9k flat changing but the drive at 3k to 5k just driving around will change forever the experience. it will be like a boxster. I track my RS and do hill climbs and buzz for 24 hours after a track event. I drive it to work once a week and for morning squirts and the life in the transmission, throttle and steering is mind blowing. I cant see how a 991 gt3 auto with lipstick will achieve any excitement or engagement at street speeds. I have not had any issues with the RS centre locks by the way. The 991 GT3 RS may prove to be a keeper but the 991 Gt3 is no 997 Gt3 RS in my opinion. Wrong section for 997 RS photos but I cant resist...
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Originally Posted by Scary View Post
I cant help but comment on the EVO Andreas Preuninger991 Gt3 'interview' over the 991 Gt3. It reminded me of the glowing 997 3.8 Gt3 RS interview walking around the grey and red RS. I went and found my 'old' 2010 magazines and i quote the May 2010 Top Gear magazine where the white 3.8 GT3 RS is tested. I quote Andreas in this magazine " Grandma's can use paddles. They are not challenging'. What has changed between 2010 and 2013? I bought a new 997 Gt3 Rs 3.8 that is grey and red and was surprised to hear that it was so soon 'old news' with the release of the 4 litre and this too is now old news with the 991 gt3. I fast learnt when the 4 litre came on to the market that we will be told whatever we need to be told. As addicts to the brand we will far too easily lap it up.
This morning at 5am I took the RS for a morning drive. Not too extreme but enough for it to dawn on me that the 991 Gt3 may be a great drive at 9k flat changing but the drive at 3k to 5k just driving around will change forever the experience. it will be like a boxster. I track my RS and do hill climbs and buzz for 24 hours after a track event. I drive it to work once a week and for morning squirts and the life in the transmission, throttle and steering is mind blowing. I cant see how a 991 gt3 auto with lipstick will achieve any excitement or engagement at street speeds. I have not had any issues with the RS centre locks by the way. The 991 GT3 RS may prove to be a keeper but the 991 Gt3 is no 997 Gt3 RS in my opinion. Wrong section for 997 RS photos but I cant resist...
Then keep your current GT3 and everyone will stay happy

Great looking car by the way! Love the gray/red combo
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but..yet again..we're reaching conclusions...without having driven the damn thing..

Sheesh.....991 GT3 forum is now conjecture central.....
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Originally Posted by Scary View Post
I cant help but comment on the EVO Andreas Preuninger991 Gt3 'interview' over the 991 Gt3. It reminded me of the glowing 997 3.8 Gt3 RS interview walking around the grey and red RS. I went and found my 'old' 2010 magazines and i quote the May 2010 Top Gear magazine where the white 3.8 GT3 RS is tested. I quote Andreas in this magazine " Grandma's can use paddles. They are not challenging'. What has changed between 2010 and 2013? I bought a new 997 Gt3 Rs 3.8 that is grey and red and was surprised to hear that it was so soon 'old news' with the release of the 4 litre and this too is now old news with the 991 gt3. I fast learnt when the 4 litre came on to the market that we will be told whatever we need to be told. As addicts to the brand we will far too easily lap it up.
This morning at 5am I took the RS for a morning drive. Not too extreme but enough for it to dawn on me that the 991 Gt3 may be a great drive at 9k flat changing but the drive at 3k to 5k just driving around will change forever the experience. it will be like a boxster. I track my RS and do hill climbs and buzz for 24 hours after a track event. I drive it to work once a week and for morning squirts and the life in the transmission, throttle and steering is mind blowing. I cant see how a 991 gt3 auto with lipstick will achieve any excitement or engagement at street speeds. I have not had any issues with the RS centre locks by the way. The 991 GT3 RS may prove to be a keeper but the 991 Gt3 is no 997 Gt3 RS in my opinion. Wrong section for 997 RS photos but I cant resist...
Hi Scary,

Nice picture..

AP really said that: " Grandma's can use paddles. They are not challenging'.

Can you scan this ..? Cant believe it..tomorrow he will tell us that pink 991 GT3s will be faster then white ones..just to get more pink ones sold..

PS: didnt he say - "Im not a marketing guy..

Sad..
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The "revving to 9k" and 10k tacho are turning out to be just sad marketing gimmicks - see the 991 gt3 dyno figures.
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Originally Posted by Slowekistan View Post
The "revving to 9k" and 10k tacho are turning out to be just sad marketing gimmicks - see the 991 gt3 dyno figures.
Oh you already drove it? How was it? :-)

Marketing figures? Sigh.
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Hi Scary and welcome! Yep, your sentiments are shared by many... Myself included. Your car has proven its worthy of the GT3 badge... The new car can't claim the same just yet!

Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by Porsche.collector View Post
Hi Scary,

Nice picture..

AP really said that: " Grandma's can use paddles. They are not challenging'.

Can you scan this ..? Cant believe it..tomorrow he will tell us that pink 991 GT3s will be faster then white ones..just to get more pink ones sold..

PS: didnt he say - "Im not a marketing guy..

Sad..
I brought this up in the other AP thread.

He said it for Top gear interview
"Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging"


He also said
"The manual gearbox in the GT3 is the best match for the purist."
Source Porsche 911 GT3 First Drive Video. | October 01, 2009 | Edmunds

From 06 March 2013 interview he said in this interview when talking about why they choose PDK.

"And on a race track the PDK gains three-quarters of a car length with every shift, so after a long straight youĺre ahead of the other car and can turn-in in front of him."

To me that is fine, PDK is faster but really do I care. No I'd rather lose the car length and enjoy beating my own drum. After all the GT3 is about having the rawest version of the latest generation car and keeping it the most involving experience, It not about racing.

I am waiting to see the specs of the Turbo and if it's offered in manual, based of the C4S chassis I am expecting it to also to be the lightest water cooled Turbo ever and with the GT3 weight now at 3150 lbs. I'm guessing it to be very close in weight and a lot of the gizmos as pay for options.
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Originally Posted by StirlingMoss View Post
Oh you already drove it? How was it? :-)

Marketing figures? Sigh.
Look, no doubt this car would blow my socks off - well beyond my skills and physical capabilities to even appreciate the level of performance it offers. With a bit of luck and some german engineering this new mass produced engine might turn out to be the "next" Mezger. Who knows? But the released dyno figures severely diluted my Porsche kool-aid.
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Originally Posted by jumper5836 View Post
I brought this up in the other AP thread.

He said it for Top gear interview
"Grandmas can use paddles. They aren't challenging"


He also said
"The manual gearbox in the GT3 is the best match for the purist."
Source Porsche 911 GT3 First Drive Video. | October 01, 2009 | Edmunds

From 06 March 2013 interview he said in this interview when talking about why they choose PDK.

"And on a race track the PDK gains three-quarters of a car length with every shift, so after a long straight you’re ahead of the other car and can turn-in in front of him."

To me that is fine, PDK is faster but really do I care. No I'd rather lose the car length and enjoy beating my own drum. After all the GT3 is about having the rawest version of the latest generation car and keeping it the most involving experience, It not about racing.

I am waiting to see the specs of the Turbo and if it's offered in manual, based of the C4S chassis I am expecting it to also to be the lightest water cooled Turbo ever and with the GT3 weight now at 3150 lbs. I'm guessing it to be very close in weight and a lot of the gizmos as pay for options.

Thanks..I think everything is clear now with regards to his credibility....
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Maybe he just becomes a grandpa, who knows.
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim View Post
Maybe he just becomes a grandpa, who knows.


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Originally Posted by Targa Tim View Post
Maybe he just becomes a grandpa, who knows.
Haha, good one.
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That is really all he is - he is only fooling some of the people. GT3 and RS' always had the cup car engine. They can do anything they want with the GT3 as long as they run the same engine in the race car. I think this is all we want. I know the game has moved on but is this too much to ask?
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