PORSCHE OF NASHUA EXPERIENCE
#16
Originally Posted by carz80am
Highly doubt this is your car, it was delivered to dealership in florida and already has 500 miles. I would assume you have a commission number or vin to matchup, hopefully they resolve for you. Everyday it seems we hear about another porsche dealer screwing a customer...
#17
Highly doubt this is your car, it was delivered to dealership in florida and already has 500 miles. I would assume you have a commission number or vin to matchup, hopefully they resolve for you. Everyday it seems we hear about another porsche dealer screwing a customer...
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#19
Rennlist Member
He was referring to the $50,000.00 of ADM that other car was commanding, his is new so would probably be higher
Stated another way; He specc'ed it right and the Dealership now wants to shake him out of the deal to realize (steal) an additional $35k by selling it to another.
Recall they would already receive the standard profit at MSRP and his $15k ADM profit, so the level of greed exhibited here is truly astounding.
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Very helpful, start proceeding up the food chain and results will occur.
EDIT: Here is a better list with emails. I'm logged in so i hope the URL can be read by others
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...t?OpenDocument
Corporate Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Marcus-Kabel.jpgMarcus Kabel
Manager, Corporate Communications
E-Mail: marcus.kabel@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3843
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Jade-Logan.jpgJade Logan
Corporate Spokesperson
E-Mail: jade.logan@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3880Product Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Andrew-Lennon.jpgAndrew Lennon
Manager, Product Communications
E-Mail: andrew.lennon@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3511
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Frank-Wiesmann.jpgFrank Wiesmann
Product Spokesperson - 911, Boxster and Cayman
E-Mail: frank.wiesmann@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3414
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Luke-Vandezande.jpgLuke Vandezande
Product Spokesperson - Panamera, Macan and Cayenne
E-Mail: luke.vandezande@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3834
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/David-Engelman.jpgDave Engelman
Spokesperson - Motorsports and Brand Heritage
E-Mail: dave.engelman@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3617
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Courtney-McMurray.jpgCourtney McMurray
Product Communications Specialist
E-Mail: external.courtney.mcmurray@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3837PR Programs
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Abby-Brochstein.jpgAbby Brochstein
Public Relations Programs Manager
E-Mail: abby.brochstein@porsche.us
Phone:
Stated another way; He specc'ed it right and the Dealership now wants to shake him out of the deal to realize (steal) an additional $35k by selling it to another.
Recall they would already receive the standard profit at MSRP and his $15k ADM profit, so the level of greed exhibited here is truly astounding.
Highly doubt this is your car, it was delivered to dealership in florida and already has 500 miles. .... Everyday it seems we hear about another porsche dealer screwing a customer...
Well, here you go, this is the only other PTS riviera blue touring I know of and it just got posted for sale here. This is exactly the reason why they did what they did.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ita-seats.html
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...ita-seats.html
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Sounds like a nightmare experience. Here's the PCNA execs if you wanted to try and reach out.
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...s?OpenDocument
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...s?OpenDocument
EDIT: Here is a better list with emails. I'm logged in so i hope the URL can be read by others
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...t?OpenDocument
Corporate Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Marcus-Kabel.jpgMarcus Kabel
Manager, Corporate Communications
E-Mail: marcus.kabel@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3843
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Jade-Logan.jpgJade Logan
Corporate Spokesperson
E-Mail: jade.logan@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3880Product Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Andrew-Lennon.jpgAndrew Lennon
Manager, Product Communications
E-Mail: andrew.lennon@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3511
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Frank-Wiesmann.jpgFrank Wiesmann
Product Spokesperson - 911, Boxster and Cayman
E-Mail: frank.wiesmann@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3414
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Luke-Vandezande.jpgLuke Vandezande
Product Spokesperson - Panamera, Macan and Cayenne
E-Mail: luke.vandezande@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3834
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/David-Engelman.jpgDave Engelman
Spokesperson - Motorsports and Brand Heritage
E-Mail: dave.engelman@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3617
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Courtney-McMurray.jpgCourtney McMurray
Product Communications Specialist
E-Mail: external.courtney.mcmurray@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3837PR Programs
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Abby-Brochstein.jpgAbby Brochstein
Public Relations Programs Manager
E-Mail: abby.brochstein@porsche.us
Phone:
#20
He was referring to the $50,000.00 of ADM that car was commanding, his is new so would probably be higher
Stated another way; He specc'ed it right and the Dealership now wants to shake him out of the deal to realize (steal) $35k by selling it to another. "Wants" are only desires, I hope they do not succeed.
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Very helpful, start proceeding up the food chain and results will occur.
Stated another way; He specc'ed it right and the Dealership now wants to shake him out of the deal to realize (steal) $35k by selling it to another. "Wants" are only desires, I hope they do not succeed.
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Very helpful, start proceeding up the food chain and results will occur.
#21
Racer
FWIW I live in Bermuda and bought my GT3 Touring in NY. No issue was ever made about the fact I lived overseas even though It was very much in the open that I lived in Bermuda. Was never asked if I was planning to export it, which for similar reasons to Singapore is a no-go to Bermuda anyway.
So sorry to hear about this, I hope it gets resolved. Im guessing it was when you moved delivery from the PEC to the dealer that they realized they had an opportunity to steal it from you. The dealer system in the US is completely broken.
So sorry to hear about this, I hope it gets resolved. Im guessing it was when you moved delivery from the PEC to the dealer that they realized they had an opportunity to steal it from you. The dealer system in the US is completely broken.
#22
Three Wheelin'
Well I think we all know what’s up w/ the dealership. I am not certain that PCNA or PAG can be of any real benefit in terms of putting pressure on the dealer. I don’t prefer legal action over lesser means, but you have a binding contract in several aspects of the purchase and I believe a letter from a lawyer stating as much and implying litigation would be your best course of action as the dealer owner may stand to lose more in litigation than gain from someone else’s ADM. It is the only language they understand.
#23
Rennlist Member
sorry to hear about this
though I am not really convinced that money is the motivation here. You paid 15 k ADM and we all know that the market on them is softer now , so probably they night get 20 k above list at best Not sure they are that stupid
My bet is their motivation is fear of export ... Companies have assessed dealers hefty penalty for car exported out of the country , even if the dealer was not directly responsible...
one case brought to my attention : dealer sold AMG car to a person and buyer signed no export agreement ... buyer traded car for another car 6 months later.. the other dealer dumped the car at auction , and the car was bought and exported .. first dealer was penalized 15 k and they could not fight it ..
my understanding that this is done to protect dealers in other countries ..
I don't know PCNA policy/punishment to dealers regarding export but this might be the culprit
Your SA was aware of your situation but probably never mentioned to GM till recently,
GL with this matter
though I am not really convinced that money is the motivation here. You paid 15 k ADM and we all know that the market on them is softer now , so probably they night get 20 k above list at best Not sure they are that stupid
My bet is their motivation is fear of export ... Companies have assessed dealers hefty penalty for car exported out of the country , even if the dealer was not directly responsible...
one case brought to my attention : dealer sold AMG car to a person and buyer signed no export agreement ... buyer traded car for another car 6 months later.. the other dealer dumped the car at auction , and the car was bought and exported .. first dealer was penalized 15 k and they could not fight it ..
my understanding that this is done to protect dealers in other countries ..
I don't know PCNA policy/punishment to dealers regarding export but this might be the culprit
Your SA was aware of your situation but probably never mentioned to GM till recently,
GL with this matter
#25
He was referring to the $50,000.00 of ADM that other car was commanding, his is new so would probably be higher
Stated another way; He specc'ed it right and the Dealership now wants to shake him out of the deal to realize (steal) an additional $35k by selling it to another.
Recall they would already receive the standard profit at MSRP and his $15k ADM profit, so the level of greed exhibited here is truly astounding.
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.
.
Very helpful, start proceeding up the food chain and results will occur.
EDIT: Here is a better list with emails. I'm logged in so i hope the URL can be read by others
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...t?OpenDocument
Corporate Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Marcus-Kabel.jpgMarcus Kabel
Manager, Corporate Communications
E-Mail: marcus.kabel@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3843
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Jade-Logan.jpgJade Logan
Corporate Spokesperson
E-Mail: jade.logan@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3880Product Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Andrew-Lennon.jpgAndrew Lennon
Manager, Product Communications
E-Mail: andrew.lennon@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3511
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Frank-Wiesmann.jpgFrank Wiesmann
Product Spokesperson - 911, Boxster and Cayman
E-Mail: frank.wiesmann@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3414
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Luke-Vandezande.jpgLuke Vandezande
Product Spokesperson - Panamera, Macan and Cayenne
E-Mail: luke.vandezande@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3834
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/David-Engelman.jpgDave Engelman
Spokesperson - Motorsports and Brand Heritage
E-Mail: dave.engelman@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3617
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Courtney-McMurray.jpgCourtney McMurray
Product Communications Specialist
E-Mail: external.courtney.mcmurray@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3837PR Programs
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Abby-Brochstein.jpgAbby Brochstein
Public Relations Programs Manager
E-Mail: abby.brochstein@porsche.us
Phone:
Stated another way; He specc'ed it right and the Dealership now wants to shake him out of the deal to realize (steal) an additional $35k by selling it to another.
Recall they would already receive the standard profit at MSRP and his $15k ADM profit, so the level of greed exhibited here is truly astounding.
.
.
.
Very helpful, start proceeding up the food chain and results will occur.
EDIT: Here is a better list with emails. I'm logged in so i hope the URL can be read by others
https://press.porsche.com/prod/press...t?OpenDocument
Corporate Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Marcus-Kabel.jpgMarcus Kabel
Manager, Corporate Communications
E-Mail: marcus.kabel@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3843
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Jade-Logan.jpgJade Logan
Corporate Spokesperson
E-Mail: jade.logan@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3880Product Communications
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Andrew-Lennon.jpgAndrew Lennon
Manager, Product Communications
E-Mail: andrew.lennon@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3511
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Frank-Wiesmann.jpgFrank Wiesmann
Product Spokesperson - 911, Boxster and Cayman
E-Mail: frank.wiesmann@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3414
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Luke-Vandezande.jpgLuke Vandezande
Product Spokesperson - Panamera, Macan and Cayenne
E-Mail: luke.vandezande@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3834
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/David-Engelman.jpgDave Engelman
Spokesperson - Motorsports and Brand Heritage
E-Mail: dave.engelman@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3617
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Courtney-McMurray.jpgCourtney McMurray
Product Communications Specialist
E-Mail: external.courtney.mcmurray@porsche.us
Phone: 770-290-3837PR Programs
[img]https://press.porsche.com/prod/presse_pag/PressBasicData.nsf/press/PCNAenContact/$File/Abby-Brochstein.jpgAbby Brochstein
Public Relations Programs Manager
E-Mail: abby.brochstein@porsche.us
Phone:
#26
I would file suit immediately and ask for an injunction preventing them from selling the car until your case is heard. I would also remind them that you will be asking the court to have them pay all your legal fees once you win the case. I would do this all on principle, regardless of the cost.
#28
Rennlist Member
Well I think we all know what’s up w/ the dealership. I am not certain that PCNA or PAG can be of any real benefit in terms of putting pressure on the dealer. I don’t prefer legal action over lesser means, but you have a binding contract in several aspects of the purchase and I believe a letter from a lawyer stating as much and implying litigation would be your best course of action as the dealer owner may stand to lose more in litigation than gain from someone else’s ADM. It is the only language they understand.
#29
Jeez, this is horrible. Clearly, they didn't honor the deal because they wanted to sell the car for more money. It just shows that they care more about money than customers and integrity. I hope everything works out and you ultimately get the car for the agreed upon price. Keep trying different contacts at PCNA and don't give up! Best of luck my friend!
#30
I would file suit immediately and ask for an injunction preventing them from selling the car until your case is heard. I would also remind them that you will be asking the court to have them pay all your legal fees once you win the case. I would do this all on principle, regardless of the cost.