kinglenario

ajag

I do miss my manual .2 GT3, no doubt. If I could have both the RS in PDK and the 6MT GT3, I would. Would I want the RS in manual....maybe, but the PDK suits the car's nature so well. I do have to say that now I've gotten used to driving the RS in manual mode and going back and forth between the paddles and lever, I'm enjoying it quite a bit more than when I got the car.

Akunob

^^ This!! Porsche was brilliant! Porsche 'knows' the optimal transmission for their GT cars is the PDK, however they rightfully sensed a market opportunity/demand for the 6MT after the 911R was released. People didn't realize nor care that Porsche didn't engineer the 911R as a GT car (the 911R is softer)!! Yet the clamor grew for the 6MT by all those who read how great the MT was in the 911R. Porsche fed into it and simply took the MT from the "R" and mated it to the .2 GT3 4.0L (equally brilliantly to have another conversation item beyond the mishaps of the 991.1 GT3s 3.8L engine as they were trying to sell the world on its mid-cycle replacement!). It worked like a charm!! Orders came pouring in and Porsche cashed in. While the 6MT is a phenomenal transmission in its own right, many have attested that it "doesn't feel quite right" in the .2 GT3.

The ultimate irony is that the 6MT actually works BETTER in the .2 GT3 on the TRACK (where its light pedal feel/travel, quick short shifts and tall gearing play to its advantage at sustained high rpms seen on the track) as opposed to the street where ALL of those things don't translate quite as well in city, or driving around town. YET buyers are mostly opting for the 6MT for the STREET. I've spent some time in the .2 GT3 and while its a great car, 90% of the appeal of the 6MT in that car is in the FEELING of rowing your own gears and not in how sub-optimal the transmission is for the engine in everyday driving conditions. Don't get me wrong, its not terrible but it leaves quite a bit to be desired. Porsche understood this and is cashing in on the collective nostalgia. I can't knock their hustle!

sunnyr

Feel the same. Drove a manual Carrera T recently and was very disappointed with the clutch. It was basically a very light on/off switch. I already thought the GT4 clutch was on the lighter side, but this was even lighter by a significant amount.

mr965

I heel and toed for over 25 years on the track. I periodically will join a race team and drive a weekend enduro but it still doesn't make me miss it enough to replace my PDK. No regrets. None. Zip. Nada.

Palting

Well, we are up to 95 responses now, and it seems no one here regrets whatever transmission they got. Instead seems like willing to defend their choice no matter what! LOL
Now I'm curious. What did you get, and what do you mean grass is greener?

silvertige

Agreed. This is just another MT Vs. Auto debate. They are both great! There, close thread.

Cyrek

Craigy

You speak the truth. The getrag dual clutch in the E92 M3 was a great box. When I bought my M3, I had to go out of my way to find a DCT. Seemed like every car had a manual. But it was worth it, great, instant crisp shifts. Downshifts were fantastic too. And if you turned off the traction control you could bump the shift ferocity from level 5 to "sporty puristic 6".

Since that car I've been completely spoiled. No way on earth I'd buy a paddle-shift slushbox automatic. And I have a hard time considering any of the F1 transmissions besides the very latest iterations. BMW set the bar too high.

fxz

same weight need the same balance
delete the touring side mufflers
retry a test and let us know

StanfordCardGT3

I got a PDK and was questioning if it was the right choice (hence the grass is greener mentality). But this thread has been illuminating. I was starting to second guess myself with a PDK. But upon making a slow turn exiting today from the highway today where I had to decelerate quickly from 70 to ~25, it dawned on me how annoying it was to remember which gear to downshift to (i.e. going from 6th gear to 3rd non-sequentially on a fast corner) to properly exit the corner. I would like to focus more on the road and enjoyment and not worry about a mis shift or matching the rev range when downshifting non-sequentially (even with auto rev match which only helps to a certain extent).

stout

Good to have choices. OP was not a PDK vs. MT thread, but a "if you ordered X, how are about it now?"

And we can thank the 991.1 GT3 reaction + surprise demand for the GT4 (which was in no small part due to the fact it was the Cayman many wanted for years, and just happened to be MT only) + the 911R (which was really just a business case for a 6MT for the 991.2 GT3, leaving one on the shelf) for the choice we've got.

Interesting perspectives throughout this thread.

konaforever

I have a PDK GT3 and sometimes regret not getting a manual. I have a GTI that I daily that has manual that satisfies that sometimes, but wonder at times what a manual GT3 would be like. PDK GT3 is definitely still great as it seamlessly changes gears.

Taffy66

I also have a 991.2GT3 PDK which i've had for a year now and absolutely love it, however i do get days when i wished i'd gone for a manual..I was all set om manual last year until i drove a 991.1GT3 PDK on track in July and i was smitten, at which point i switched my order to PDK.
There is no right or wrong IMO as the latest GT3 is an awesome car whichever transmission its got.

Palting

Ahh, got it. I'm glad we got that straightened out for you. Drive over to your closest big city during rush hour, or take it to the track, both scenarios where the PDK will REALLY shine. Enjoy the car, and the PDK!!