Notices
991 GT3, GT3RS, GT2RS and 911R 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

GT car / Salesman - Shiraaz Sookralli - Champion Porsche's VP of Marketing

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-20-2018, 06:31 PM
  #1546  
STG
Race Director
 
STG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: FL
Posts: 13,800
Likes: 0
Received 193 Likes on 137 Posts
Default

^^ Yes, the answers to those questions can only be had by additional insider info and results of any investigation and public information once he's caught. Still, there are more questions than answers.

This isn't a case of Joe Blow worked for XXXX for 1 year, committed fraud, internal safeguards raised red flags, he's busted.

Shiraaz case reads like a Netflix series.

Can anyone confirm Shiraaz's relationship to the Maraj's?? Related somehow?
Old 09-20-2018, 07:38 PM
  #1547  
Archimedes
Race Director
 
Archimedes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 13,163
Received 3,858 Likes on 1,902 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Manifold
^ Answering those questions requires a proper investigation with access to information beyond what we have.
GTFO here with that reasoned approach and good judgement. Don't you know there are torches to carry, axes to grind and Rennlist heroes to be made?!
Old 09-20-2018, 07:49 PM
  #1548  
mcsmcs1
Burning Brakes
 
mcsmcs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Austin
Posts: 1,171
Received 55 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Archimedes
GTFO here with that reasoned approach and good judgement. Don't you know there are torches to carry, axes to grind and Rennlist heroes to be made?!
Clear you are no fan of this thread, but why have you posted 33 times in the thread? That's more than the OP who got scammed.
Old 09-20-2018, 07:55 PM
  #1549  
Big Swole
Rennlist Member
 
Big Swole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Metro Atlanta, GA area
Posts: 7,059
Received 2,012 Likes on 1,262 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Archimedes
GTFO here with that reasoned approach and good judgement. Don't you know there are torches to carry, axes to grind and Rennlist heroes to be made?!

Old 09-20-2018, 07:56 PM
  #1550  
chillindrdude
Burning Brakes
 
chillindrdude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia
Posts: 923
Received 61 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Off topic, but a local guy (to me) in Towson, MD, who was a regular at Hunt Valley C&C and Supercars on State St. with a Bugatti Veyron and Pagani Huayra just got nabbed by the Feds for a $364 Million ponzi scheme.
Old 09-20-2018, 08:20 PM
  #1551  
BSO
Three Wheelin'
 
BSO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 1,495
Received 552 Likes on 334 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Evilfrog
I'm not crying. I'm the guy who would make that happen.And besides being sleazy, doing that without a valid audit-able process is great way to make anything you did stumble upon not usable.
I don't believe companies need a search warrant to review e-mails on their own networks, what's more, if you're using a company laptop/PC/tablet/cell-phone, don't expect privacy on those either, they're not yours. Send compromising messages at your own risk. Companies can set their own rules on the use of their networks/equipment and employees have to abide by those rules and suffer the consequences for violations.

You can't go very long without some reveal about an e-mail/text message that turned around and caused the sender to regret the action.

Law enforcement would indeed need a search warrant but that's another story.
Old 09-20-2018, 08:51 PM
  #1552  
GiuseppeM
Three Wheelin'
 
GiuseppeM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,448
Received 87 Likes on 55 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by chillindrdude
Off topic, but a local guy (to me) in Towson, MD, who was a regular at Hunt Valley C&C and Supercars on State St. with a Bugatti Veyron and Pagani Huayra just got nabbed by the Feds for a $364 Million ponzi scheme.
I was reading that this morning, now that’s real money
Old 09-20-2018, 08:58 PM
  #1553  
dark knight
Rennlist Member
 
dark knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Support our troops! go USA!!!
Posts: 2,223
Received 46 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

PCNA and PAG owe nobody anything, it would be a good idea for them to address the system to protect their most loyal customers, this hands off we can't do anything attitude helped to create this environment

If you bought your car via the black market of brokers, scalpers and flippers who used Shiraaz as their inside man dope dealer, you don't deserve any help from Champion or Porsche, your beef is with the black marketeers

if you paid ADM in a deposit to Shiraaz/Champion you deserve an allocation, you agreed to ADM anyway so you shouldn't get it back, your allocation needs to come out of theirs, why do they owe you anything else at this point?

If Porsche gives allocations to those affected who aren't in the above category, Champion should not be allowed to profit and more cars should be built, not taken out of the allocations of other dealers





Old 09-20-2018, 09:39 PM
  #1554  
Dr Chill
Rennlist Member
 
Dr Chill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
Received 262 Likes on 165 Posts
Default

I think everyone who reads through this entire thread deserves an allocation at MSRP.
Old 09-20-2018, 09:41 PM
  #1555  
Fdvigna
Rennlist Member
 
Fdvigna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 439
Received 193 Likes on 67 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dr Chill
I think everyone who reads through this entire thread deserves an allocation at MSRP.
dibs!
Old 09-20-2018, 10:24 PM
  #1556  
STG
Race Director
 
STG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: FL
Posts: 13,800
Likes: 0
Received 193 Likes on 137 Posts
Default


Last edited by STG; 09-25-2018 at 01:24 AM.
Old 09-20-2018, 11:33 PM
  #1557  
Douglas Jones
Track Day
 
Douglas Jones's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STG
Attachment 1291733

Add up all the article views, more than 1,000,000 people have likely seen his mug.

How long until he's sighted??

Maybe if Shiraaz writes an apology letter, he can be forgiven and maybe have things go back to normal? Maybe VP of the car wash dept?

* He's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
Update!! Body of Shiraaz found in the Florida Everglades. I’ll forward the link shortly. Looks like someone finally caught up with him. Maybe one of his many kids mother. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
He got what he deserved. Alligator food. Now we will never know the full truth.

Old 09-21-2018, 12:05 AM
  #1558  
jayson
Racer
 
jayson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 458
Received 422 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

Wow - still no sign on this guy. That is nuts!
Old 09-21-2018, 12:08 AM
  #1559  
destaccado
Rennlist Member
 
destaccado's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,285
Received 414 Likes on 258 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Manifold
I have to agree that this thread is venturing into a crusade that goes beyond what makes sense for RL. Fine to discuss ways to help the victims and things that should be done prevent something like this from happening again, but finding SS is a job for law enforcement, and there are some things that need to be worked out directly by the parties involved and their lawyers.

If Champion didn't respond right away and directed inquiries to their lawyers, nothing wrong with that, they need to size up the situation and get legal advice before taking steps they might regret. That's exactly what I'd do if I was in their shoes.

IMO, there's way too much speculation in this thread, and people already "sure" of things they can't be sure of. I'm glad some credible people are now coming out and telling us about their experiences with Champion.

IMHO there's too much crying in this thread.

The thread is over 100 pages long and by far the most popular thread in this section of the forum. People are clearly interested in it. People are clearly interested in reading facts and yes - speculation.

STG deserves a gold star below his name for bringing it to our attention and for all the investigative work he's done for free on his own time. If I was a victim here - I'd definitely appreciate his posts a lot more than yours.

If you want to read more boring debates on which color brakes reduce glare in your passenger's eyes better then there's 1000x other threads here to do that.

No one here is doing anything illegal. No one here is doing anything immoral. If you're not interested in this topic just move on.
Old 09-21-2018, 12:16 AM
  #1560  
STG
Race Director
 
STG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: FL
Posts: 13,800
Likes: 0
Received 193 Likes on 137 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by destaccado
IMHO there's too much crying in this thread.

The thread is over 100 pages long and by far the most popular thread in this section of the forum. People are clearly interested in it. People are clearly interested in reading facts and yes - speculation.

STG deserves a gold star below his name for bringing it to our attention and for all the investigative work he's done for free on his own time. If I was a victim here - I'd definitely appreciate his posts a lot more than yours.

If you want to read more boring debates on which color brakes reduce glare in your passenger's eyes better then there's 1000x other threads here to do that.

No one here is doing anything illegal. No one here is doing anything immoral. If you're not interested in this topic just move on.





Quick Reply: GT car / Salesman - Shiraaz Sookralli - Champion Porsche's VP of Marketing



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:35 AM.