Do you guys think this R is a good deal?
06-07-2018, 11:08 PM
#31
Drifting
Can you not ... add the LWFW to a car that had the dual mass from the factory? Or is the part not available?
06-07-2018, 11:13 PM
#32
I would think that is possible, considering the 911R book states some owners did not like the noise created by SMFW and therefore had it changed to the LWFW. However this could have an impact on the value of said car as it was altered from the original spec.
06-08-2018, 03:01 AM
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06-08-2018, 03:35 AM
#34
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nvm
06-08-2018, 03:48 AM
#35
Burning Brakes
Why make buying decisions based on price? The price of something doesn't really matter, because it does not factor in the benefits to you. Make buying decisions based on the value of something, since that takes into account the price + the benefits.
Then ask yourself; "do you want it"? and "does it fit my budget"?
If something offers you value and fits within your budget, the price matters little.
It takes a while to get to this point in life, but makes it a lot less stressful.
And all good salespeople know the reverse is true when selling something. ie- focus on the benfits to the customer, and don't sell on price.
Then ask yourself; "do you want it"? and "does it fit my budget"?
If something offers you value and fits within your budget, the price matters little.
It takes a while to get to this point in life, but makes it a lot less stressful.
And all good salespeople know the reverse is true when selling something. ie- focus on the benfits to the customer, and don't sell on price.
buying a nice car it should make you happy to rack up the miles, the price of the car is dropping but the value in personal enjoyment is more than that
i daily drive my AMG gt s and it is really fun. I bought it new, it’s good to use it
06-08-2018, 06:45 AM
#36
Race Director
Man, I haven't read the whole thread but I would definitely definitely buy a GT3 touring at $200k before an R without the SMF at $300k. The SMF is sort of the R's calling card from a driving experience perspective.. it's loud and Grindy and makes the engine spin up nicely. But without that, the R is just not that special (again, from a driving experience viewpoint).
I'd much rather go for the MUCH improved engine in the gt3 touring, more torque, more top end, just way better all around. I would not spend $100k extra on an R without it.
I'd much rather go for the MUCH improved engine in the gt3 touring, more torque, more top end, just way better all around. I would not spend $100k extra on an R without it.
06-08-2018, 01:30 PM
#37
Drifting
What if it doesn't have the original tank of gas, oil in the sump, brake pads, tires, etc.?
06-08-2018, 01:34 PM
#38
Man, I haven't read the whole thread but I would definitely definitely buy a GT3 touring at $200k before an R without the SMF at $300k. The SMF is sort of the R's calling card from a driving experience perspective.. it's loud and Grindy and makes the engine spin up nicely. But without that, the R is just not that special (again, from a driving experience viewpoint).
I'd much rather go for the MUCH improved engine in the gt3 touring, more torque, more top end, just way better all around. I would not spend $100k extra on an R without it.
I'd much rather go for the MUCH improved engine in the gt3 touring, more torque, more top end, just way better all around. I would not spend $100k extra on an R without it.
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06-08-2018, 05:16 PM
#40
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Cars without stripes and side decals (on the sticker) can fetch $10/15k less than cars with them, and that's a 3M decal package that you can purchase for less than $500 on the aftermarket, a little more if you want oem decals. Is that completely crazy that such a cheap and easy add-on can make such a big difference in price? Obviously. Yet it does. Now extrapolate that to a flywheel.
Again, if someone plans to keep the car for years and drive the crap out of it then all of this doesn't matter, just buy the cheapest iteration and modify at will ... but if this something that one plans to drive for a while and switch into something else without torching money for nothing, then they're better off paying a little more on the front end for the must have options.
06-08-2018, 05:42 PM
#41
You know full well that's not how it works.
Cars without stripes and side decals (on the sticker) can fetch $10/15k less than cars with them, and that's a 3M decal package that you can purchase for less than $500 on the aftermarket, a little more if you want oem decals. Is that completely crazy that such a cheap and easy add-on can make such a big difference in price? Obviously. Yet it does. Now extrapolate that to a flywheel.
Again, if someone plans to keep the car for years and drive the crap out of it then all of this doesn't matter, just buy the cheapest iteration and modify at will ... but if this something that one plans to drive for a while and switch into something else without torching money for nothing, then they're better off paying a little more on the front end for the must have options.
Cars without stripes and side decals (on the sticker) can fetch $10/15k less than cars with them, and that's a 3M decal package that you can purchase for less than $500 on the aftermarket, a little more if you want oem decals. Is that completely crazy that such a cheap and easy add-on can make such a big difference in price? Obviously. Yet it does. Now extrapolate that to a flywheel.
Again, if someone plans to keep the car for years and drive the crap out of it then all of this doesn't matter, just buy the cheapest iteration and modify at will ... but if this something that one plans to drive for a while and switch into something else without torching money for nothing, then they're better off paying a little more on the front end for the must have options.
06-08-2018, 06:07 PM
#42
Race Director
Originally Posted by johnny2five
Whether the whole oem stuff makes sense or not to us doesn't matter. All that matters (from a resale standpoint) is what the collectors think. And for them, this stuff matters. A lot.
06-08-2018, 06:25 PM
#43
Drifting
You know full well that's not how it works.
Cars without stripes and side decals (on the sticker) can fetch $10/15k less than cars with them, and that's a 3M decal package that you can purchase for less than $500 on the aftermarket, a little more if you want oem decals. Is that completely crazy that such a cheap and easy add-on can make such a big difference in price? Obviously. Yet it does. Now extrapolate that to a flywheel.
Again, if someone plans to keep the car for years and drive the crap out of it then all of this doesn't matter, just buy the cheapest iteration and modify at will ... but if this something that one plans to drive for a while and switch into something else without torching money for nothing, then they're better off paying a little more on the front end for the must have options.
Cars without stripes and side decals (on the sticker) can fetch $10/15k less than cars with them, and that's a 3M decal package that you can purchase for less than $500 on the aftermarket, a little more if you want oem decals. Is that completely crazy that such a cheap and easy add-on can make such a big difference in price? Obviously. Yet it does. Now extrapolate that to a flywheel.
Again, if someone plans to keep the car for years and drive the crap out of it then all of this doesn't matter, just buy the cheapest iteration and modify at will ... but if this something that one plans to drive for a while and switch into something else without torching money for nothing, then they're better off paying a little more on the front end for the must have options.
Buy a car w/o LWFW
Buy LWFW and replace part (perhaps $5K all in? Maybe pay a little more to have it done at the stealer - reassuringly expensive)
Drive car (maybe)
Switch back to factory fitted flywheel when time to sell to another collector
Use lightweight flywheel as desk ornament
06-08-2018, 06:50 PM
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06-08-2018, 09:15 PM
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