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Old 05-03-2018 | 11:38 AM
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Lightbulb Finally... An Official 991.1 GT3RS Production Count

Been saying this all along, that the 991.1 would be produced in huge numbers. We guessed somewhere north of 3,000 cars, based on allocations we could track.

A few of us kept saying how the RS is more common than the Turbo in certain parts of the world. Folks were skeptical. We said ADMs do not equate to rarity. Folks kept saying nay.

Now you have Oliver Berg manager of GT program quoting a c. 5,000 number in the press.

http://9tro.com/media/features/new-c...1#content-page
http://9tro.com/media/features/new-c...2#content-page



That's more than all 997.1, 997.2 and 997 4.0 RS'es combined, in the space of just the first-gen 991 product.

I have absolutely no doubt that the GT2RS and .2 3RS will see numbers in the same ballpark (maybe slightly fewer 2RS'es than 3RS'es...)

Good news for those of us who bought these cars to be driven. Bad news for those crazies who think GT cars are investments or speculative instruments.

Now please, for the love of pete, stop asking about the "value" of GTx cars with PTS / deviated stitching. Bring back the good old RL where we talk about how these cars drive and how they perform on track!!
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Old 05-03-2018 | 11:41 AM
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Someone e-mail the guy that the track ruling idiots make us drive with the windows down.
Old 05-03-2018 | 11:43 AM
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You’re a dreamer. I’m with you because I bought GT3 because it’s my dream car and I intend to drive and keep it.

Speculators will cite inflation and population growth. ADM’s won’t stop and flippers will keep going. The article and quote will go unnoticed.
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Amen. BTW my car was awesome on our 2,800 Spring Break road trip a few weeks ago. the Cup 2's were a little sketchy in some 40 degree rainy weather we got but OMG to drive these cars is, well just awesome and I could care less how much less I will get for my GT3 when I sell it with high mileage. I would agree the C&C and garage queen, speculators and flippers are just missing out on pure enjoyment that only those of us who drive them can explain. And some pics because everyone likes those.





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Old 05-03-2018 | 12:19 PM
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5000 is actually lower than what many here believe. But I doubt this will have any deterrent effect on ADMs or value threads. RL is RL (or something like that).
Old 05-03-2018 | 12:56 PM
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Not sure about the accuracy of the number but assuming it is correct put it context. 5000 cars worldwide is a low number. If the US gets less than 1/2 of the cars, that's somewhere between 2200-2500 cars. By any measure that's no a lot of cars.
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Old 05-03-2018 | 01:34 PM
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1421 2016 RS’s are in the US. I would bet there will be less .2 RS’s. We will see...
Old 05-03-2018 | 01:38 PM
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My cleaning lady believes there will be about half as many .2RS's as .1RS's. Who knows.
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adm or not...given the amount of GT cars happening at one time, I doubt there will be as many .2 cars
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Someone e-mail the guy that the track ruling idiots make us drive with the windows down.
What is the reasoning to drive with open windows in US track days?
I dont get it. I think it is even more dangerous as your are constantly distracted.
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Originally Posted by carcommander
My cleaning lady believes there will be about half as many .2RS's as .1RS's. Who knows.
I doubt it. It will have an as long as a production run as the .1 RS

Just like there will be a good amount of .2GT3s produced
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You can’t look at overall supply in isolation.

The number of cars produced - either in the hundreds, thousands, or whatever - only has significance when compared to the overall demand.

And, yes, while 5000 is a large number in isolation (and more than previous generations of RS cars combined) we should not forget that the demand and market for the 991 generation GT/RS cars has grown significantly because of the PDK transmission.

So when looked at in context, the production numbers are not as large as they would appear at first blush.
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Where's Waxer?
Old 05-03-2018 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
You can’t look at overall supply in isolation.

The number of cars produced - either in the hundreds, thousands, or whatever - only has significance when compared to the overall demand.

And, yes, while 5000 is a large number in isolation (and more than previous generations of RS cars combined) we should not forget that the demand and market for the 991 generation GT/RS cars has grown significantly because of the PDK transmission.

So when looked at in context, the production numbers are not as large as they would appear at first blush.
Agree. If there are 5,000 cars produced but 10,000 want it, then ADMs and games will continue.

The investment on a "used rare car", however, is a different market. If you bought the car as an investment, it's only good for the first 5 years or so that you can sell it for more than you paid for it.Maybe. After that, the production numbers will show that it is a "common used" car.


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