Just another Manual vs PDK thread
04-27-2018, 10:30 AM
#16
Instructor
Love driving a manual. Tore the auto out of my 68 Camaro and replaced it with a 4 speed. Bought new 987 in 05, 5MT. Bought new 987CS 07, 6MT. However, when ordering my BGTS, spec'd PDK and not going back. Manuals may be more fun to drive, but PDK is faster. You don't have to like it, but that's reality. Do you want to be slower? I don't, but maybe you do. PDK and PTV are amazing ... worth the price if you want to be as fast as possible.
04-27-2018, 10:39 AM
#17
If tracking then PDK with wing, if not then Manual with Touring pack. Manual more fun on road and PDK faster on track. I have had both and love to track so PDK in my RS and 3 pedals in my Touring for the street. I found the PDK very boring on the street yet my Touring is one of the most fun cars just because of how great the engine is and with the manual gearbox just a riot at legal speeds.
04-27-2018, 10:56 AM
#18
Thanks to everyone who chimed in!
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
04-27-2018, 11:01 AM
#19
Thanks to everyone who chimed in!
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
04-27-2018, 11:16 AM
#20
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
There's no wrong choice here. Get what you want. You'll be happy.
If this is what's giving you second thoughts over the manual though... just stop right there. The manual is made for this car. It was designed for this car. It can handle the high rpm. It's MEANT to be shifted at high rpm. There's no excessive wear there. There's nothing to be guilty about. And you can launch the car as hard as you like. There's even a launch control mode just like the PDK has if that's what gives you giggles.
04-27-2018, 11:25 AM
#21
Three Wheelin'
PDK, happy, no regret !
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04-27-2018, 11:25 AM
#22
Race Director
Thanks to everyone who chimed in!
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
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04-27-2018, 11:40 AM
#23
Race Director
If i add up the pros of both transmissions....
Manual:
- Has that old school character. This was how it used to be done.
- Possibly the best (and one of the last) manual transmissions ever built.
- Auto rev matching is a great training tool for heel/toe noobs
- Just seems like a GT3 and manual are meant to be.
- Car is crazy fast when equipped with it.
- Great on track. Great on street.
PDK:
- State-of-the-art modern dual clutch transmission. The latest go fast technology.
- Possibly the best dual clutch transmission ever built.
- Multiple ways to engage. Full auto, sport (for track), or fully manual.
- Just seems like the GT3 and PDK are meant to be.
- Car is crazy fast when equipped with it.
- Great on track. Great on street.
Either way I know I would be happy. And if i had one and switched to the other, lots of smiles while occasionally missing the other.
Manual:
- Has that old school character. This was how it used to be done.
- Possibly the best (and one of the last) manual transmissions ever built.
- Auto rev matching is a great training tool for heel/toe noobs
- Just seems like a GT3 and manual are meant to be.
- Car is crazy fast when equipped with it.
- Great on track. Great on street.
PDK:
- State-of-the-art modern dual clutch transmission. The latest go fast technology.
- Possibly the best dual clutch transmission ever built.
- Multiple ways to engage. Full auto, sport (for track), or fully manual.
- Just seems like the GT3 and PDK are meant to be.
- Car is crazy fast when equipped with it.
- Great on track. Great on street.
Either way I know I would be happy. And if i had one and switched to the other, lots of smiles while occasionally missing the other.
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04-27-2018, 11:45 AM
#24
Nordschleife Master
Thanks to everyone who chimed in!
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?
PDK owners, do you ever get bored? Does anyone else (besides me) dislike the look of the PDK shifter? Are there any PDK owners who would consciously choose a GT3 over an RS if they had access to both? I wonder if any PDK owners view their car as a keeper, not just something to hold them over till the next best thing comes out?
So far it seems like everyone is happy with their choice, is there no one who was on the fence like me and still has doubts about their pick?
. BTW, my PDK winged GT3 is a keeper for me.
04-27-2018, 12:41 PM
#26
Rennlist Member
What are your goals with the car? I have driven both extensively. Both Fantastic. I ordered the PDK.
My goals, drive as much as possible, SoCal = PDK
Mix up events with Racing (Cup Car/door to door/trailer, maximum effort) and Time Trials (GT3, drive to and from event, less logistical effort, no possibility of a money shift $$$$$)
Fastest configuration = PDK and PCCBs - PDK at least 7 tenths /Sec faster - that is huge, - PCCBs -WORLD of difference in performance - completely different car and requires much different driving behavior.
I already have 2 manual cars, 993 and Cup.
Have fun and match your configuration with your goal, you surely will enjoy your GT3!
My goals, drive as much as possible, SoCal = PDK
Mix up events with Racing (Cup Car/door to door/trailer, maximum effort) and Time Trials (GT3, drive to and from event, less logistical effort, no possibility of a money shift $$$$$)
Fastest configuration = PDK and PCCBs - PDK at least 7 tenths /Sec faster - that is huge, - PCCBs -WORLD of difference in performance - completely different car and requires much different driving behavior.
I already have 2 manual cars, 993 and Cup.
Have fun and match your configuration with your goal, you surely will enjoy your GT3!
04-27-2018, 01:12 PM
#29
Rennlist Member
I have the manual and have around 1,500 miles clocked. I will say that this transmission is a little less engaging than older manuals... with rev match and an assisted clutch it damn near drives itself. I really enjoy it and the gearbox is amazing, but seeing all the videos of the PDK and it's ease of use does create intrigue. (Also I've never driven a PDK GT car).
My thinking was, if I only get the chance for one GT car allocation... I want a manual, but if I get the chance for a 992 or RS down the road I will be pumped for the PDK.
My thinking was, if I only get the chance for one GT car allocation... I want a manual, but if I get the chance for a 992 or RS down the road I will be pumped for the PDK.
04-27-2018, 02:02 PM
#30
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Manual owners, do you ever feel like you're not exploring all of the rev range (or less of it) due to the gearbox? Do you ever feel guilty for causing excessive wear by shifting at high rpm? Does anyone think 9k RPM is too much for this gear box? Do any manual owners miss launching the car?