nuvolari612

Zonda 760 Roadster Manual Gearbox.

manitou202

The only car that really tugs at my heart in that price range is a Singer. I know it's probably not the market you are talking about but that's it.

Everything else in that price range today (720, 488, GT ) I see as a bit faster and more exiting than a GT3, but tough to justify the extra money unless I had a lot more money to throw away.

For something that is much more track focused, I would really struggle to ever spend that kind of money. I would feel the need to put away a lot more money in reserve for parts and supplies. Also there are too many reliable and good options (GT3 Cup, GT4 Clubsport) or cars like a Radical that I would probably consider first.

This all comes down to we wish we could be race car drivers but don't have the time, money, logistics, education, skills to run a simple race team. But if you told me for $400k I could have a high performance track car (similar to a GT3 or a GT4) and it came fully supported and was part of a light race series for amateurs I might seriously consider it.

laranja

964 3.8 RSR with no modern conveniences.
They cost *slightly* more than $400k for the real thing...

-eztrader-

Something like a 600 hp n/a 918 Spyder. 9500 redline, manual trans - 2950 lbs. RWd.

Or a customizable Singer - with loads of choices to make. I wouldn't mind owning a 993 gt2 look a like with a top quality build.

Tangerine

I don't meet all your requirements, but it seems to me there is a gap between the 911 and the 918 where a car in that price range should sit.

Take the shape of the 911 and 918, meet somewhere in the middle. Carbon fiber monocoque. The new 4.0 engine in the RSR's mount point. Electric motors (smaller, lighter, less powerful than the 918) to drive the front wheels.

Now for the crazy: make it a manual. The front electric motors are there to assist whatever the driver is doing, if it's more grip for launch or whatever. BUT, you can also throw the transmission in neutral, and the front wheels have enough power to drive as a "normal" car in full electric mode. (short range, not that high top speed, but covers any of those "stuck in traffic" theoretical complaints)

Sure, make one with PDK-S as well, but wow if someone could make a manual-electric hybrid that you can play with like the R/GT3 manual and press a button to become an automatic, it would be quite the unicorn--with pegasus wings too.

ipse dixit

A BMW Z8 (non-Alpina) with a carbon monocoque and frame instead of the OEM full aluminum setup.

isv

^^ this. always thought a lighter weight evora fitted with the e92 m3 engine and higher build quality would be a tremendous thing. And might not even be silly priced.

I'll continue the theme of the thread so far that light weight ie ideally <1200kg fully fuelled (with a decent size tank) would be by far the biggest draw. My ideal car would be a car with small dimensions esp by modern standards, <1.85m wide, NA v10 or 12, top quality passive dampers, manual with no fancy electronics and top quality build quality and engineering. I'd likely be happy to pay more than $350-400k as well if such a car existed tbh.

A smaller and lighter cgt basically would be ideal!

MaxLTV

The LT Spyder version of McLaren 720S or the Speciale Aperta version of 488 would be my choice. Also, if Porsche makes another model above 911 - carbon fiber and stuff - as long as it's not fully electric, I'm probably in. I'm fully on-board with pedal shifters, well-designed turbo engines and/or even electric assist engines, and RWS. The only thing that bugs me about modern cars is how big and heavy they are. That's why I keep being drawn to McLaren - they seem to be able to make powerful cars lighter than others.

AMGSiR

RUF RCT EVO conversion. 964 based car, 6 speed LSD, no rain gutters, 425hp 420 tq. Bit of an understated street presence but enough performance to turn heads.

I'm very well versed in them

PantsFire

Something like the 913 render that was knocking about some years ago, with the v10 and exhaust from a Performante. I would order that now, blind.

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Seriously though. Lambo, Audi and Porsche are all part of the same family. Why can't Porsche take the innards and chassis of a Peformante and then Porsche-ify the **** out of it and sell it to us. What do they think is going to happen, they might sell a few less 911's, but only because the people who would of bought 911's are now buying a far more expensive car from them.

manitou202

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tGy...ature=youtu.be

This.

997rs4.0

A modern 964rsr chassis with the new 4.0l gt3 engine or a scale down 7/10 size of the 991rs would also work. Drop all the electrics on the inside and replace with flip switches. I love those metal flip switches.

MaxLTV

Singer and RUF cars are great, but how safe are they? We talk so much about track safety, and I do not know personally anyone who died or was permanently injured from a track crash (of course I've read about it in the news but no one from my circles), but I knew several people who were killed sensibly driving vintage cars on public roads. Are these modernized versions also safer? Or we don't know?

sechsgang

Well, mine doesn't have an airbag so...I'm sure structurally they are fine but they definitely don't have the newest safety add-ons.




If this car was attached to a brand and had the chance of holding a little value, like Porsche...an NA v8 version of the 918 would have me running for an order. Otherwise, the answer is Singer, even though it's a good 150 over that. Just checks all the boxes for me.

bccars

I wouldn't look too far really.
https://rennlist.com/how-tos/slidesh...9#most-popular

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