The "Unofficial" 991.2 GT3 Production Number Stats
#677
Worldwide .2 GT production will average out to roughly 700 cars per month. Like .1 GT, NA will get ~36% of those, (~32% USA/~4% Canada).
This means total US allocation is ~4k 991.2 GT cars, about 10% more then 991.1 GT(3,577). This is also inline with total increased production capacity, 33k 911’s in 2016 up to 36k in 2018.
WW production of 991.2 GT3 will be be ~7k,
US GT3 production is expected to be 2,300-2,500.
GT2RS will be ~2k ww, so ~650 for the US is estimated.
991.2 GT3RS could be up to 3k worldwide, ~950 will go to the states.
*991.1 GT cars produced: 1,963 GT3, 1,318 RS and 296 R built and sold for the USA alone. (3,986NA/~11k WW)
I realize there will be some "production spill over" into 2019, but I don't think it will be a tall number to materially impact estimated #s given.
Finally, if Porsche can pump 700 units out per month, why have I been waiting over 2 years for my 991.2 GT3? I grant you it's a PTS, but still...
#678
700 GT cars per month over the period July 2017 - December 2018 (excluding the months of August due to factory shutdown) = 11,200 GT models. That's a very high number. Also, I wouldn't use the 991.1 GT production as a proxy, as the time period will be shorter for the 991.2, although the breakdown between WW # and USA allocation is interesting.
I realize there will be some "production spill over" into 2019, but I don't think it will be a tall number to materially impact estimated #s given.
Finally, if Porsche can pump 700 units out per month, why have I been waiting over 2 years for my 991.2 GT3? I grant you it's a PTS, but still...
I realize there will be some "production spill over" into 2019, but I don't think it will be a tall number to materially impact estimated #s given.
Finally, if Porsche can pump 700 units out per month, why have I been waiting over 2 years for my 991.2 GT3? I grant you it's a PTS, but still...
If Porsche produces cars 48 weeks per year, at 5 days a week they have 240 production days per year. They do produce 36k 911’s a year so they do average 150 911’s per day. Total GT sales are about 30% of 911’s. If they average the same 30% in production we have 10k units per year WW GT production or ~45 ww GT units per day.
Best estimates we currently have
(Updated November 2018)
Year model - WW / NA
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA
2019 Speedster - 1,948 / 700
2019 3RS - 4,000 / 1,500
2018 2RS - 2,600 / 1,000
2018 GT3 - 8,000 / 3,000
991.2 GT = ~16k WW est. / ~6k NA est
Last edited by Dot23RS; 11-22-2018 at 06:39 PM.
#679
Just to throw into the mix consider the 997.1 v. 997.2 production numbers.
2007/08 GT3 NA 963 Units https://**********/production-997-1-gt3-3-6/
2010/11 GT3 NA 715 Units https://**********/production-997-2-gt3-3-8/
Of course GT3 RS .2 included two different models - only listed here the 3.8.
2007/08 NA 453 Units https://**********/production-997-2-gt3-3-8/
2010/11 NA 612 Units https://**********/production-997-2-gt3-rs-3-8/
A few possible factors to consider that may have been at play:
- the impact of the recession (may have reduced demand for the .2 models, particularly the GT3)
- the .1 RS was a little more similar to the .1 GT3 than the .2 RS was to the .2 GT3 (may have increased demand for .2 RS relative to the .2 GT3 as compared to the .1 model)
- it was unknown at the time if a manual GT3/RS would be built in the 991 series (may have increased demand for the .2 model over what might otherwise have been)
- impact of two .2 RS models (may have reduced 3.8 .2 RS demand)
2007/08 GT3 NA 963 Units https://**********/production-997-1-gt3-3-6/
2010/11 GT3 NA 715 Units https://**********/production-997-2-gt3-3-8/
Of course GT3 RS .2 included two different models - only listed here the 3.8.
2007/08 NA 453 Units https://**********/production-997-2-gt3-3-8/
2010/11 NA 612 Units https://**********/production-997-2-gt3-rs-3-8/
A few possible factors to consider that may have been at play:
- the impact of the recession (may have reduced demand for the .2 models, particularly the GT3)
- the .1 RS was a little more similar to the .1 GT3 than the .2 RS was to the .2 GT3 (may have increased demand for .2 RS relative to the .2 GT3 as compared to the .1 model)
- it was unknown at the time if a manual GT3/RS would be built in the 991 series (may have increased demand for the .2 model over what might otherwise have been)
- impact of two .2 RS models (may have reduced 3.8 .2 RS demand)
#680
Ok friends, after getting tired of having unclear answers and estimates regarding 2019 NA GT3RS production I decided to build a complete database over the past few weeks. I was surprised at some of the results. I currently have 857 verified built and completed units of NA GT3RS from VIN “4060” - “5078”.
here are a couple of cool facts.
Of the 857 verified, 83 are for Canada and 774 for the USA
The rarest configuration is Lava Orange Non WP with only 1 built so far, next would be Racing Yellow with 5 Non WP built for the US so far. Then 21 Guards Red Non WP and 23 Miami Blue Non WP.
808 WP accounted for over half of the NA builds as of 11/14/18.
here are a couple of cool facts.
Of the 857 verified, 83 are for Canada and 774 for the USA
The rarest configuration is Lava Orange Non WP with only 1 built so far, next would be Racing Yellow with 5 Non WP built for the US so far. Then 21 Guards Red Non WP and 23 Miami Blue Non WP.
808 WP accounted for over half of the NA builds as of 11/14/18.
Last edited by Dot23RS; 11-15-2018 at 12:21 AM.
#681
Rennlist Member
^ looks like your earlier estimate of 3RS production is very light. We are only halfway through deliveries, more in line with the .1- 1600 units in the US
#682
Currently the database shows the first production/build date as 7/6/18 and the most recent 11/14/18. In that time they’ve had 80 separate production dates.
IF production continues through the end of March 2019 I think we can expect the same number as 991.1RS which was 1,318 for the USA and 211 for Canada.
Last edited by Dot23RS; 11-15-2018 at 12:17 AM.
#683
Ok friends, after getting tired of having unclear answers and estimates regarding 2019 NA GT3RS production I decided to build a complete database over the past few weeks. I was surprised at some of the results. I currently have 835 verified built and completed units of NA GT3RS from VIN “4060” - “5066”.
here are a couple of cool facts.
of the 835 verified, 81 are for Canada and 754 for the USA
there are 5 Lava Orange of which 4 are 808WP
there are only 18 Racing Yellow of which 14 are 808WP
One third of all .2 3RS built are Lizard Green
here are a couple of cool facts.
of the 835 verified, 81 are for Canada and 754 for the USA
there are 5 Lava Orange of which 4 are 808WP
there are only 18 Racing Yellow of which 14 are 808WP
One third of all .2 3RS built are Lizard Green
#685
#687
#689
Ok friends, after getting tired of having unclear answers and estimates regarding 2019 NA GT3RS production I decided to build a complete database over the past few weeks. I was surprised at some of the results. I currently have 857 verified built and completed units of NA GT3RS from VIN “4060” - “5078”.
here are a couple of cool facts.
Of the 857 verified, 83 are for Canada and 774 for the USA
The rarest configuration is Lava Orange Non WP with only 1 built so far, next would be Racing Yellow with 5 Non WP built for the US so far. Then 21 Guards Red Non WP and 23 Miami Blue Non WP.
808 WP accounted for over half of the NA builds as of 11/14/18.
here are a couple of cool facts.
Of the 857 verified, 83 are for Canada and 774 for the USA
The rarest configuration is Lava Orange Non WP with only 1 built so far, next would be Racing Yellow with 5 Non WP built for the US so far. Then 21 Guards Red Non WP and 23 Miami Blue Non WP.
808 WP accounted for over half of the NA builds as of 11/14/18.
#690
Last edited by Dot23RS; 11-21-2018 at 04:11 AM.