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Old 10-13-2017, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by CHADW
States should confiscate and auction any car they find evading taxes. Pretty easy to find them with the big Montana license plate on the back...
The argument being that a shell corporation = tax evasion?
Old 10-13-2017, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CHADW
States should confiscate and auction any car they find evading taxes. Pretty easy to find them with the big Montana license plate on the back...


you must love paying taxes. To a government that wastes 99.99% of it by stealing it for their own personal interests and benefits



anyone who evades taxes here and gets away with it. You the real MVP in my eyes.
Old 10-13-2017, 11:50 PM
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Sorry if I’m dense, but i still don’t understand. Can a police officer pull you over for having Montana plates? If he does, can he fine you for those, or does he report you to the state’s tax authorities.
OR

Does one get into tax trouble when the state looks at tax records or something completely separate from police enforcement. Basically.. does the cop have any jurisdiction over this aspect?

Let’s drop the pretexts about this being anything but tax avoidance.. I’m happy acknowledging that I’m curious purely for that purpose.

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Old 10-14-2017, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
I have good advice for people when they get pulled over....SHUT THE HELL UP and don't answer any questions by saying that my lawyer said not to.
NOW THAT is some great advice, and your best post ever!
Old 10-14-2017, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Sorry if I’m dense, but i still don’t understand. Can a olive officer pull you over for having Montana plates? If he does, can he fine you for those, or does he report you to the state’s tax authorities.
OR

Does one get into tax trouble when the state looks at tax records or something completely separate from police enforcement. Basically.. does the cop have any jurisdiction over this aspect?

Let’s drop the pretexts about this being anything but tax avoidance.. I’m happy acknowledging that I’m curious purely for that purpose.
Some leisurely reading for you.

https://www.arb.ca.gov/bluebook/bb11/veh/veh-4000_4.htm

http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-...sect-6700.html

In other words, "yes" to all of your questions, except for the tax liability issue, which is a Franchise Tax Board matter for the AG to enforce.
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Originally Posted by mcsmcs1
Montana requires a front plate don't they?
Yes
Old 10-14-2017, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bigskyGT4
Yes
But would the officer in xyz state know that or care?

OR requires a front plate but I’ve never installed one when the vehicle was out of the state of OR.
Old 10-14-2017, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Here's the person to talk to. Tell him Martin referred you.

Scott Meredith
Company and Incorporation Specialist LLCTLC
1-877-913-5100
scott@sales.llctlc.com
Thanks Martin! I will keep this info handy. Honestly, after the feedback here I'm probably not going to mess with it for a Spyder. Not really much of a savings and certainly not worth tickets and/or fines.

Originally Posted by hughp3
Hello Lodi, I did this a few years ago. Since then many dealers now refuse since ga started cracking down. I also had an attorney in MT give his opinion and he said I could very well be charged under ga law. I don't do it any more. I Just pay tax and move on. Take care, hugh
I hear ya Hugh! I have ponied up on every car to date. Might be worth the risk for a GT2RS but not a Spyder.

Thanks All! Great info!
Old 10-14-2017, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Sorry if I’m dense, but i still don’t understand. Can a olive officer pull you over for having Montana plates? If he does, can he fine you for those, or does he report you to the state’s tax authorities.
OR

Does one get into tax trouble when the state looks at tax records or something completely separate from police enforcement. Basically.. does the cop have any jurisdiction over this aspect?

Let’s drop the pretexts about this being anything but tax avoidance.. I’m happy acknowledging that I’m curious purely for that purpose.
Not sure about other states, but California is taking this pretty seriously, and working with Montana and other states on this evasion of registration costs.

See this CHP site...

https://www.chp.ca.gov/notify-chp/ch...ion-violators))

Personally I think it is pretty silly to try to evade these registration costs - huge downside, and as said above, everyone knows what is being done when people have Montana plates in California, as an example.
In California, there are a ton of Montana plates and the LE folks that I know are on top of it, and they are enforcing it aggressively...especially when confronted with bright flashy cars that they see over and over in the same area over a period of time more than 30 days...that is the period that they would need to be registered in that state...

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Old 10-14-2017, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RUF RS
NOW THAT is some great advice, and your best post ever!
Haha Thanks. I've always liked the "less is more" concept and that applies to what you say after you get pulled over. The few times that I have been pulled over for speeding, the cops didn't give a second thought about the MT plates. The Ticket Clinic is one of the best companies I have ever used....4 tickets with 4 dismissals. I don't mind taxes but when they go into an a nimby pension black hole I do mind.
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Haha Thanks. I've always liked the "less is more" concept and that applies to what you say after you get pulled over. The few times that I have been pulled over for speeding, the cops didn't give a second thought about the MT plates. The Ticket Clinic is one of the best companies I have ever used....4 tickets with 4 dismissals. I don't mind taxes but when they go into an a nimby pension black hole I do mind.
So... is it discretionary?... is there a specific ticket they can write. Asking for a friend...
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Haha Thanks. I've always liked the "less is more" concept and that applies to what you say after you get pulled over. The few times that I have been pulled over for speeding, the cops didn't give a second thought about the MT plates. The Ticket Clinic is one of the best companies I have ever used....4 tickets with 4 dismissals. I don't mind taxes but when they go into an a nimby pension black hole I do mind.
Good to know about tickets and plates. I got my first ticket in a dozen years when I moved to California two years ago. I also turned to the ticket clinic, however, they didn't get me a dismissal. Amazing that they were 4 for 4 with you, yet didn't help me at all.

I also see a lot of Idaho plates in Southern California. I may switch my registration to Idaho after a year in Montana, as I have friends and a business interest in Idaho. Then no attention at all from cops. Also, Idaho does not require a front plate.
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You are either breaking the law or you are not. If the the car is garaged out of MT, don’t have a MT DL, not sure how this is legal, but rather a form of tax evasion. Car gets stolen/into accident good luck putting a claim in. There are several members that cheat and proud of it. It is stealing and very risky. Afford a 200K car manage the tax/DMV fees. Lame
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Originally Posted by 0to60
You are either breaking the law or you are not. If the the car is garaged out of MT, don’t have a MT DL, not sure how this is legal, but rather a form of tax evasion. Car gets stolen/into accident good luck putting a claim in. There are several members that cheat and proud of it. It is stealing and very risky. Afford a 200K car manage the tax/DMV fees. Lame
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My favorite is usctrojan running around the board bragging on ever post he has a 4.0 and complaining about stealers and flippers being bad and he didn’t even pay taxes on that 4.0! This braggart and tax evader wants to be our moral compass and looks down on others?

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