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Old 02-20-2017, 03:32 PM
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I'm looking at 2 CPO 2014 Caymans. Which is the better deal and what is a reasonable offer for each?

The first one is a base Cayman. It only has 700 miles on it with no previous owner. It was used as an executive demo vehicle.

BASE Cayman 52,600.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplungicon (PDK)
345 Steering wheel heating
396 18" Cayman Wheels
446 Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest
475 Porsche Active Suspension Managementicon (PASM)
541 Seat ventilation
603 Bi-XenonT headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
639 Sport Chronoicon Package
680 BOSE® Surround Sound System
686 Sirius XM® Satellite Radio Receiver
748 Power folding side mirrors
A1 Black exterior
AG Black leather interior
P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
P9B Premium Package i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way)
XLS Sport Tailpipes
Destination 950.00
Total Original MSRP 69,735.00

The asking price is $51,275.00


The 2nd car is a Cayman S. 7,376 miles. One owner, sold and serviced at this dealer.

Cayman S. 63,800.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
423 20" Carrera S Wheels
446 Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest
603 Bi-Xenon™ headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
970 Two-tone leather interior
A1 Black Exterior
BL Leather Interior in Black/Luxor Beige
P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
P9B Premium Package i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way)
P9G Infotainment Package (PCMicon Navigation with BOSE® Surround Sound System)
Destination 950.00
Total Original MSRP 79,990.00

The asking price is $59,889.00
Old 02-20-2017, 04:03 PM
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Just my two cents, Sport Chrono and PASM are nice to have then again the S will have more performance and higher value if you ever decide to trade or sell. It's really a personal choice only you can make. Seven hundred miles is nearly new but sometimes company cars can be driven robustly, check the tire wear for clues.

Lowest mileage is always a key consideration but you wouldn't be the first Porsche owner to buy a base only to quickly get S envy. If you can drive them both, pay close attention to how you like "sport plus" , I'm almost always in that PDK mode. Someone else with a Cayman would have to weigh in here about their experiences but IMO the S would still be much quicker even without sport plus. Lastly a lot of the options on the base are not performance minded so to me paying more for them would be unattractive. Don't forget to contrast the warranty coverage just for the heck of it. Good luck!

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The S is way overpriced. Try $50k.
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Originally Posted by terbiumactivated
Just my two cents, to say company provided cars are driven "robustly" is as polite as I can type it. My pal works for Hyundai and gets a new car what seems like every two weeks. He tries to be gentle yet still whips the thing harder than I would consider driving my Ford! I'm also a big advocate of lower miles in side by side comparisons. On top of that the non company car is a S and not far off the asking price of the other. I'd bid on the S. As for a fair price, you can always come up! If they know you are serious about it they should not be insulted if you start low, good luck!
A 2014 with only 700 miles though. That really has me thinking. Both cars are basically brand new. I guess what it's really going to come down to is whether I want to save $8-10k and go with a base or spend and extra $8-10k and get an S. I've been going back and forth on that question for a while. Honestly, I can live with the power of the base. I don't need top end speed. I want a sports car that has very good acceleration for driving around town and handles great. I'm not sure for my particular needs spending the extra $8-10k on an S makes sense.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
The S is way overpriced. Try $50k.
You think it's that overpriced? The CarGurus website puts the market value just under asking price.
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If you are happy with the power and feel of the base, then you have already answered your question.
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I responded to another thread on "Any Regrets With the Base" but to add a couple of other things.

1. The power is the Base is PERFECT for ripping around the city. I drive it mainly in PDK manual mode. I love winding it out and not going break-neck speeds in tight urban settings. As for out in the local hills I cannot say as yet. It'll need to warm up before I get out and up through those.

2. I turned down 20" wheels on an S as they seemed much harsher on city roads and tended to grab and yaw (twist) the car during the test drive.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
The S is way overpriced. Try $50k.
I agree. Maybe not $50K asking, but it def seems high. Big premium being put on the low miles.

Honestly I don't like either deal. If I wanted a used Cayman S I'd do a nationwide search. There are many CPO for sale at P-dealers. Out of state transactions with a P-dealer are a breeze. I've done many.
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both don't have sport exhaust which I think is needed , need to drive a car with and without exhaust and decide which way to go
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
The S is way overpriced. Try $50k.
Originally Posted by tstafford
I agree. Maybe not $50K asking, but it def seems high. Big premium being put on the low miles.
Just did a nationwide search on cars.com for certified/S/under 20k and the lowest price is $54,981. You can always ship a car as location matters quite a bit, for instance the cheapest Black S near me is $59k.
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Originally Posted by lajoiedp
You think it's that overpriced? The CarGurus website puts the market value just under asking price.
All those sites overprice the cars, doesn't matter what it is, KBB, NADA, etc. Of course dealers price the cars high because they only need one person to walk in that swallows the hook.

Five months ago I sold my 2014 Cayman S, black/black $90k spec, very desirable build, 8k miles, no issues. I got $54k for it and there wasn't a ton of demand. Paying $59k for a $79k build 981 seems crazy to me. Definitely a dealer premium in that price and it better be CPO at that price.
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Originally Posted by mm1
Just did a nationwide search on cars.com for certified/S/under 20k and the lowest price is $54,981. You can always ship a car as location matters quite a bit, for instance the cheapest Black S near me is $59k.
Cars.com asking prices are meaningless. Those Caymans won't sell anywhere near the typical inflated asking price on a site like that. Only thing worse is Crackhead's List.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
All those sites overprice the cars, doesn't matter what it is, KBB, NADA, etc. Of course dealers price the cars high because they only need one person to walk in that swallows the hook.

Five months ago I sold my 2014 Cayman S, black/black $90k spec, very desirable build, 8k miles, no issues. I got $54k for it and there wasn't a ton of demand. Paying $59k for a $79k build 981 seems crazy to me. Definitely a dealer premium in that price and it better be CPO at that price.


So the value of your car dropped $36k in less than 3 years. Wow!!!
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
Five months ago I sold my 2014 Cayman S, black/black $90k spec, very desirable build, 8k miles, no issues. I got $54k for it and there wasn't a ton of demand. Paying $59k for a $79k build 981 seems crazy to me. Definitely a dealer premium in that price and it better be CPO at that price.
So your car sold for 54k and was listed on here for one day in September (in CA). Non certified, so add 2-3k for that warranty (not saying it's worth it to everyone). Also, imo at a certain price options don't transfer in value.

56.5ish private (if it had CPO) and throw some money on that for dealer profit, doesn't seem that out of line to me.
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Originally Posted by lajoiedp
So the value of your car dropped $36k in less than 3 years. Wow!!!
I'd assume he had 5% off that price but yeah... you know the saying, once you drive off the lot! Doesn't apply to all cars and don't get click happy with the options.


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